My father died Sunday at 8:10 a.m.. He was 69 years old.
I have bipolar disorder and I am grieving. I started grieving the second I heard my mother’s voice on the phone. She has a death tone. I knew by her hello and her pause that this was a death notification call. We all knew it was coming.
When she told me my father had died I just said, “Okay” in a very calm tone. I can do that. I can modulate my tone of voice based on preference rather than occasion. She told me a few other things: his ashes would be shipped; there would be a memorial. And I just placidly said, “Okay.” It’s a surreal thing being told that your father is dead. It’s something you always know will happen (generally people outlive their parents) but it’s something you’re never really prepared for – even when, like my father – the parent had spent years dying (he was bipolar, an alcoholic and unmedicated).
My mother sounded destroyed on the phone. My parents had divorced many years ago but my father was still very important to her. I did not break into pieces until after she had said “Goodbye.”
Then I sobbed loudly and soaked many, many Kleenex with tears. I know this is normal. It’s normal to cry when someone dies. This is not a bipolar thing. This is a human thing. Humans grieve. Bipolars are humans. We grieve.
But how does a person with bipolar grieve and not get really, really sick with a life-threatening depression? I mean, let’s face it, I was already really depressed, and now my father is dead. What am I supposed to do with that?
And I have work to do so I purposefully dissociate. I dissociate from my body and my brain so I can get a few hours of work done. I can grieve later. There will always be more later.
And now I have no idea of what to do. What do people do when their fathers die? I know they go to funerals. But what else? I know they cry a lot, but surely that can’t be the bulk of multiple days.
And what do bipolars do when their fathers die? How does a person with bipolar react when grieving? And how will I ever stop crying without dissociating? And if I never can, will I ever really get over his death?
A Roadmap for Bipolar and Grief
I feel like I’m left without a roadmap for bipolar and grief. Bipolar I know so well I can spot it an a hundred paces but grief? Only academically. I know the stages of grief. I know I’ve seen a few of them. I know I’ll see more. But how do I move through these stages, preferably with some sort of swift efficiency. I just don’t have time for this. I have shit to do.
So where’ the roadmap for grieving? I know there isn’t one. I know that people grieve in their own times and in their own ways but that just isn’t good enough for me. That just sounds like mood episode after rapid cycling mood episode to me. That just sounds like a one-way trip to a hospital.
I’m desperate to avoid that. I am. No one wants to see that outcome. But how, exactly do I avoid it when I know I’m decompensating? This is something I just don’t know. I don’t know how dark and exaggerated it will get. And I’m scared.
Please note: I appreciate any condolences people may offer with this post but I won’t be responding to them simply due to my own mental state. Thank you for understanding.
Thank you for this. My father passed away on Saturday and I’ve been stuggling with anger and lashing out. I began a post about it, but haven’t quite made it past the title.
I’m comforted by the way you validated my feelings and confusion about my feelings.
Thank you for sharing.
Hi Bipolar Gemini,
I’m happy I could help. What I would say is give yourself time. Time brings perspective. Time will get you past the title.
– Natasha Tracy
Natasha, You may not remember me but I have followed you previously when I was actuve on Google+. Please accept my sincerest condolences about your father. I word this on this past Sunday, Oct 18 that my mother passed away the night prior Oct. 17. She was terminal at least since April and no one informed me. In and out of hospice. She did not decide to let me know. The last time I tried to call her she hung up on me. My sibling has yet (and I have no serious expectation) to call me. I NEVER GOT TO SAY GOODBYE! I am so hurt, that I have no words.
I understand because between the OCD and Bipolar Depression, I have zero idea how I am going to be able to move on from this. God is going to have to give me an immense amount of His grace.
NOTE TO THE WORLD: PLEASE NEVER DO ANYTHING REMOTELY LIKE THIS TO YOUR FAMILY OR ANYBODY…ESPECIALLY IF YOU KNOW THEY ARE MENTALLY ILL!!!! IF YOU DO THIS I CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE THAT YOU WILL BREAK THEIR SOUL FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. IF ONE PERSON READS THIS AND IF MY SITUATION HELPS EVEN ON PERSON…THEN MY LIFE WAS NOT IN VAIN.
Natasha, please feel free to contact me any time. May your father rest in the peace of Christ. May my mother rest in the peace of Christ. I love you so much, Mom. I just wanted to tell you that I loved you and “goodbye”.
Hi Leslie. So sorry to read of the loss of your mother under such terrible circumstances. I am also estranged from my father and he has a whole new family that doesn’t involve me or my siblings. My biggest fear is what you have just experienced, that my father will become terminally ill and die without me being told. I have tried many times to reach out to both him and my new siblings I have never met but I am always rebuffed. As he ages this becomes much more of an issue for me with no real way of dealing with it that will give me peace :’(
Natasha, I just read this. Primary losses that I have experienced have left me feeling like I would literally break in two. Jack and I have lost a father and a son, only fifteen months apart, both unexpected and tragic. It was years ago and it does heal, but I had to go to a lot of therapy. I threw things. I smoked too much. I ate a lot of chocolate. I write about it a lot since. I have things in our house that memorialize both of them. I grieved and grieved and grieved and let myself get to the end of it. It’s different for us bipolars, but we can get through it. It makes me tired just thinking about it, though. Grief is work. It sucks. I’m here if you need to talk. Seriously. I am so sorry.
Love, Taylor
Yep- I agree / I got down reading all the Condolences lol – Just read a couple at a time on good days. I do relate – just lost my Mom..Many mixed feelings they come and go..Journal, journal – I think you just might be able to grieve separately fm your BP – Just let it happen – Holding things back- BRINGS ON our Depression..Tears heal our grief. Gentle hugs dear xo Lucy
I am so sorry for the loss of your dad. When I met you today, I knew I was in the presence of a remarkable person, but had no idea you were also grieving. Trying to sort out, navigate, and survive being the daughter of a complicated father is something I know a little bit about. As such, and for so many other reasons, my heart (and respect) go out to you my new friend. This is a really important piece.
My husband is bipolar and just lost his father. He really hasn’t grieved and that scares me a little. I feel he’s keeping himself busy. He had to be strong for his mom and for our daughter that was papaws girl. But I’m truly worried that it really hasn’t hit him yet
Dear Natasha,
I don’t know really what to say, other than to extend my heartfelt condolences on the loss of your father. You are loved and appreciated by all of your many fans on this wonderful site you have created, which has helped so many deal with their own losses, including myself as I dealt with the end of a relationship with a bipolar woman I loved very much. Life brings us all losses of different kinds, and as you deal with the loss of your father, I just want you to know how much we all love and appreciate and admire you for the beautiful person you are.
My condolences Natasha. My heart goes out to you. Grief in my experience never goes away entirely, but it does soften. Make room for it in your heart and carry the grief and your love for your father with you. Forgive yourself for those times when life calls on you to put grief aside and cope with other needs and duties; the grief will be waiting for you when you come back, so its OK. Our business with each other is never finished, so don’t worry about unfinished business but remember the good times and the finished business and how your interactions with your father helped you become the wonderful person you are today. Grief isn’t a weakness, but a strength. It makes us stronger and better people in the end. It does hurt, and the only balms I’ve found are time, inner reflection, and sharing. I hope this is some small help and thank you for sharing.
Sorry to hear, Natasha . I am one of your reader from iran
What script is that? Is it Farsi(sp.? Curious? Had no idea could even be done as only know English and it;s alph. keyboard ever seen. Have seen Japanese and Chinese characters used and also translators.
Sorry, part of US centered xenophobia and so on. WN, Scranton, PA.
Natasha, I am so very sorry for your loss.
So sorry for the death of your father Natasha. I really wanted to say something sooner but as my own father died almost four years ago myself I really didn’t know what to say. I helped him a lot in his final six months and he didn’t have much pain but I was too big a coward and didn’t go to the hospital for his last couple of hours. I didn’t want to wail out loud in front of him and the whole hospital. When I feel severe loss I wine so bad I scare people. When he was dying I drove around in the middle of the night crying and screaming out my car window in the middle of the woods away from others. For fear of being locked up. That’s how I deal with severe pain. i never ever thought I could feel such pain and still stay alive and I mean it. When the love of my life left it was bad but this was even worse. It took me about a year and a half until I didn’t just break out in tears in public at random. I know as well your cat recently died and I know that doesn’t help.
I hope you got a new kitty and have others to help you. To me only a woman can help me through those things and I didn’t have one so the driving, screaming and some other things were all I could do. Otherwise I would have been arrested and locked up and then hurt someone. Sorry to be late but it’s the best I can do. I feel for you more then you know because i know your a real person who feels for real and really cares for others. Good luck and as one of my cousins said at the time for me. It never ends but it does get better and she was right at least for me. And I’m a supper nut-job. WN
I’m real sorry about ur father. I very nearly lost my dad recently he had a motorbike accident and had to be resuscitated. I can’t imagine life without him so I feel ur pain a bit but I suppose I don’t know what it’s like for you.i have been able to hold myself together through all this somehow maybe cause my dad is always so positive and that’s wot I’m trying to be like for him. Ur in a different story situation and I hope u can get through this ur a strong person and I wish u All the best xo
Natasha,
I lost my dad 33 years ago, my mother almost a year ago. I did grieve and cry , I did dissociate to continue to function at times. I did whatever was necessary to get through. Time does heal. Taking time to remember good times is a good thing. Again, time does heal – what is painful and crushing, does become easier with time. My condolences.
Deb
My family is a little bit more complicated than yours. My dad and step dad were brothers. When my step dad died I was elated at first because I knew I would no longer have to endure his emotional abuse. He had also molested me as a kid. I certainly did not grieve his loss and I found it very difficult to comfort my grieving mother who made him out to be a saint. My mother and I ended up having a terrible fight, I landed in hospital with yet another nervous breakdown and we haven’t talked since. But when my bisexual father died I was devastated. He lived with another man for 30 years. When he died his lover became cold, selfish and greedy and in less than 6 months had married a woman. I was completely shocked. I had always got along well with my dad and his partner. The only thing my dad’s partner gave me was 1/2 of dad’s ashes, get this on New Year’s Day! I bawled my eyes out the whole day and into the evening and ending up cutting. Certainly not one of my happiest New Years Day on record. It’s little wonder why I have trouble with relationships
Anyway my condolences to you. I hope you’re family situation turns out better than mine.
I’m so sorry that your father passed away. Your heart is broken. I know the pain…its a lot of emotion to process. It sometimes feels unbearable. My daddy died 8 months ago. He suddenly died from a heart attack. No warning and no chance to say goodbye. My amazing Pappa died 19 days before my baby boy was due. It was a nightmare to say the least. arriving at the hospital thinking he would be OK. Thinking, alright Dads going to get through this. Maybe he will need surgery. But I was greeted by a social worker, lead to a room and told he did not make it. I didn’t know what to do but I wanted to see him. The shock must have gotten me through that night. Anyway that’s my sad story of losing my father. I had him for 33.5 years. He was 55. Losing my Dad made me feel like a lost little girl unprotected in the world. So to answer your question how do you get through grief when you are already bipolar…be kind to yourself. Cry as much as you want. Don’t try to be strong if you aren’t feeling strong. Group grief counseling gave me some support in the very beginning. Talk about you Dad. Honor him by doing your best. I don’t have the answers. I take it one day at a time. It’s a pain we will carry the rest of our lives but we will manage it better. Once you are able to get through the shock you may start to begin to heal your broken heart. Take care of yourself and you will be in my prayers. I’m truly sorry. you aren’t alone even though it may feel like you are. Just knowing that often helped me find strength.
I am so sorry for your loss. My son is also bi-polar and wasn’t on meds when he lost his 3 1/2 month old baby girl. She suffocated because they slept with her. This was four years ago…he’s doing okay. He knows his baby is in heaven and won’t have to suffer being on this earth.
Hang in there and try to go to your Higher Power…the first year is horrible and after that you learn to live with it.
I think we, as people with bipolar, may grieve harder and maybe longer. Maybe not either.
I Do know one thing.
People mean well.
Do they know the exact thing to say to a mentally ill person who has lost a loved one?
No. I think that most people who are grieving, are as close to being mentally ill, as they ever will be.
We’re in a somewhat perpetual state of grief at any given time. Even if nobody dies. We get the feeling for free. No one has to die, for us to feel like the “grieving” feel. It can just come upon us. It truly sucks.
But people say the most hurtfull things!
again..People mean well…..
When I was raw with grief, so many people said the most stupid things! “he’s in a better place now”
NO HE’S NOT! A BETTER PLACE WOULD BE- HERE, ON THE SOFA– NEAR ME!
THEN THERE’S THE “DON’T CRY” –PEOPLE … I SAY—
CRY YOUR ASS OFF IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER! (not permission, but understanding that you do, what you must do, to stay together mentally).
and if you can’t really seem to do that, Please-call your doctor.
again…people mean well, Natasha.
I know, you’ll feel like back handing a lot of them but… don’t do it.
They don’t know HOW YOU- feel, because fact is, we ALL handle grief differently.
When and if someone says something SO idiotic and assine…. walk away. go to the bathroom, leave, go home.
Eat a cake, –or don’t.
You don’t have to put up with some morons un-soothing remarks. Find the closest door.
Most people mean well.
It’s just that no one really knows WHAT to say. So expect the ridiculous.
“I’m sorry”…. has even worn thin.
It’s terrible! …..even sounds better.
Not because I said it. ……………
but because it is.
xoxoxoox
I cannot say ‘sorry’. I don’t believe it would help you and I don’t want to add to your most certain mental state. I do not this out of a lack of caring or insensitivity. I say it because I cannot even remotely imagine what it is like. I pray you stay safe.
Good evening, Natasha. I hope you are going about your daily rituals. My guess is you are in your pajamas and on the couch. Maybe dressed but barely moving. Get up, take a shower, talk a walk, eat a bowl of cereal. Call your Mom. She needs you and both of you need to talk about your Dad. Lean on each other. She is your best friend.
Just thinking about you. I know too well how you are feeling. All of us do in one way or another. Stay strong and stay focused. It is what your father would want. Have a good night.
Cookie
Hugs, OOOO
My heart goes out to you. I’m so sorry for your loss.
I am very, very sorry for your loss. You ask how bipolars grieve. I don’t think there is a single “right” answer for that question, but I can tell you what worked for me when my father died in 1992: I gave myself permission to shut down for a while. On the other hand, in the last six years I have not had the luxury of shutting down during times of sorrow. Since my husband’s catastrophic stroke in 2009, I have been a full-time caregiver in addition to being a full-time freelancer. It worked fine for the first four years, but in the last two years a series of back-to-back misfortunes left me reeling. By this past July, I was no longer able to keep dissociating from negative feelings such as grief. I ended up having to take three weeks off. I recharged mentally, but I don’t think I’ll ever recover from the physical toll two years of suppressed grief and sorrow have taken on me. Comparing my two experiences–being able to take time off after my father died vs. forcing myself to keep going despite a prolonged period of sorrows great and small–I feel that the former option was healthier in the long run. I hope you can take some time to grieve, and to begin healing. For what it’s worth, I still miss my father and always will–but taking that time to fully mourn him allowed me to accept his passing and focus on cherishing the memories. I think about him, and talk about him, often, and remembering him always warms me.
I’m so sorry to read this, I’ll keep you and your mother in my thoughts.
I’m sorry for the loss of your dad! I was very worried when I lost family members, but each time I have grieved in the normal way. It didn’t seem to affect my bipolar and my bipolar didn’t seem to affect my grief. The only thing I had to watch was if there was too much stress or lack of sleep. That is always true, but funerals, people coming and going, etc. are stressful. I stuck to my routine, made sure to talk to my therapist, wrote stuff out. It was hard to lose my family members, especially at first, but I was okay as far as that normal cycle went. The bipolar was doing its usual thing, which seems to have nothing much to do with the real world. Hang onto your usual coping methods!
I am so sorry for your loss and sadness, crying is a good release. My dad died a couple years ago, he was not the nicest man but he always took care of us, it took me a couple years for me to cry and I really miss him. It was good that you could cry for him and yourself.
I am so sorry for the loss of your father.
I’m so sorry for your loss. The expression of condolences above sum up much of what I was going to say. I’ll add that I will keep you in my prayers, that I understand the grief having lost both parents not too long ago. Thank you for opening up to us as you do. I am very grateful for this honest, on target blog. Much love, prayers and hugs. Barbara.
So sorry for the loss of your dad. May God bless you!
Natasha — I hold you and yours in my heart in this terrible time.
~Rhea
(By the way, your dad looks pretty cool in the pic you posted.)
I do send my condolences – there is just nothing to compare with losing a parent, a sibling, or a child. No matter how strained the relationship there’s a huge piece of your heart that’s been ripped away.
My dad is still alive and doing very well at 83 in spite of two heart attacks, quadruple bypass and 2 bouts of cancer. But my mom — mom died (also of cancer) 23 years ago and I still haven’t gotten over it. One thing I would say is don’t try to suppress the grief. I buried myself in work and the grief stayed there, eating its way through me until it finally erupted a few years ago. I do believe it was a contributing factor to triggering the overwhelming depression that became bipolar, in me.
Be very, very kind to yourself. Let yourself grieve. Be very sure you do everything you already know how to do to keep the worst of the mood swings at bay. But don’t be surprised OR hard on yourself when they happen because you just had a body blow and you will feel it.
And there’s all I’ve got – I’m still new at the bipolar coping things but I’m a senior with a lot of experience at trying to handle grief. I’m sending every good thought that you’ll do better at it than I have. Be at peace if you can.
I totally get where you are at. My mom passed away on valentines day this year, a day that meant a lot as we always were each other’s sweetheart. She was very ill and tired after having many, many hurts and illnesses’. I thought I was prepared, but hearing on the phone an hour before I was to show up with bouquets of her favorite pink roses that she had died …I felt like the ground under me collapsed. She was the one closest to me, who always knew when I was “not right or off” and would tell me as I was often oblivious to the rapid changes I often went through…I’m bipolar, too. I was devastated and just so alone. I saw her every day, twice a day, was her advocate and protector in every hospital and care facility.
I have read the others comments about grief before writing to you. I got a little book a while after, keeping busy day with her estate so I didn’t think about her not being there with me, called “Don’t Take My Grief” by Doug Manning. It is a lovely book that I enjoyed and helped my perspective. Life has been a roller coaster of emotions ever since my mom passed, I see her photo every day, am surrounded by her things, gifts she gave me-all that make me happy with the memory behind it. Being grateful for 59 years with my mom sustains me, grateful for the life lessons that help me stay grounded…I went through a manic round of shopping for five months, old behavior prior to getting medicated 14 years ago. It’s what I do when agitated or upset even with a med change six weeks ago. Pour your grief into what you love to do, which I see as your writing and communicating so well with others. I started journaling give years ago when my mom first got hurt – expressing your emotions on paper or computer is so cathartic and very safe right now.
Please be kind and safe in this very difficult time…I will keep you in my prayers knowing as a fellow bipolar you need support from those who understand how much harder grief is for us.
Sincerely,
Judy
I am as lost responding to you as my mentor when her father died. I never really had a father, so I cannot process the loss she felt or you feel. My heart knows how much it must hurt, but I just can’t connect to that feeling. My support is with you, as it was for my mentor, even though I don’t have the same attachment. Please take care and take this at your own pace.
D
Natasha, I send you my deepest condolences. So sorry for your loss.
Sorry for your loss. I’ll be praying for you (yes that sounds a little sanctimonious, but it’s how I cope).
Natasha,
Adding, don’t be afraid You are just like the rest of us. Forget the BP stuff. You feel pain too. It is unavoidable.. There is no manual on this death thing. You will grieve at your own pace. There is no time limit. I don’t care what the experts say.
You will get back to living and doing things as you should. Right now, you are feeling and doing exactly what you need to be doing. Grieving. If you get sick so be it. Your body’s way of healing. Not one of us on this site can tell you how you will feel. Each of us grieve differently. Some of us get sick from it, some of us don’t.
I know you have BP and that doesn’t help the brain compensate for this loss. Stay on your meds. Take care of yourself. See your doctor. Reach out. Talk with your Mom. She is your other best friend. I waited until I was 97 pounds thin from the grief. I was really sick and knocking on heavens door.
Thank you for sharing with all of us. Keep in touch. I hope you have a good night.
Hugs,
OOOO
I am so sorry you lost your father, your best friend. We are never prepared. You will experience the pain and loss just like the rest of us have. You don’t need BP to get sick from it. Separation from your father is one of the most devastating events that will ever happen to you.
My Dad was 60. Died suddenly, tragically. I found him. I don’t have BP but I sure didn’t do well the first couple of years I was really sick the first year. In fact, it took me about 5 years to come to terms with it. First thing is denial. You want it all to go away. You get anxious. You want them back. Next, you get angry and look for someone to blame. You weep forever. Your body feels horrible. It is shock. You will get better in your own time frame.
The event will always be a part of you. You will feel better in time. Trust me you will. I don’t think any of us ever forget that call or that day. Your father is not gone. You are his extension. You will find ways to honor him and make him proud of you.
You won’t feel like reaching out for a while but you will. It’s okay Natasha if you need to go to the hospital. Some of us do. The shock and grief can be devastating depending on the relationship you had with your Dad. It seems you had a good one. I feel for you as you will have no place to go grieve. No grave. You will find ways to keep his memory alive. You will. The picture you posted of him is awesome.
My Dad will be gone 24 years on October 3. It’s like yesterday for me. I still miss him and still cry at times. Bless you sweetie. Do the best you can. Keep us posted. Don’t stay silent. It will help you to hear from your fan base what we have experienced. Hugs. OOOO
My father died too, but more than one year ago. I decided the difference between grief and depression is: grief you can do something with; depression you can’t. I journaled about my dad, spoke to my therapist and cried sometimes. After some time, I learned I can live with my ambivalent feelings. So in his memory, I go on as a psychiatric nurse and work on the one emotion he mentioned he wanted to combat but really couldn’t in healthy ways: anger.
I am truelly sorry about your loss. I have a look at your blog almost on a daily basis and I can honestly say that I awsa shocked when I read your post, especially after a period of time that you sounded a bit ‘under the weather’. Grieving is indeed a difficult time in someone’s life unless they have someone to share it with. I don’ t know about your personal life and if you indeed have ‘a shoulder to cry’ but we are here for you.
I follow you on Twitter, Natasha. I’m really sorry to read of your loss and all you are going through and fear ahead. My dad died many years ago. There is no easy way through grief except to accept (as you have) that it means you are a loving, hurting human being, and to go through it. I found that grieving helped me to recognise all the things I had against my father, to process them and their effect on me and my life, so that I could move to a place where I could forgive him (that was necessary in our relationship.) I also forgave myself too for times when I’d got it wrong. But grieving helped me to think through his impact on my life, and to find some more wholeness and healing through forgiveness. It took some time. I don’t know if this will help, but bless you anyway. I hope you find someone you can talk to, who might just be with you.
My eyes are watering. I am so sorry. I still have my dad, and yet I am scared for that phone call someday. Just know that we are all thinking of you and praying for you, for what that’s worth. Bless you Natasha and thank you for sharing your beautiful words with us. Again, my tears are rolling down my face, reading your story.
Death does not matter at all.
It does not count. I have only slipped into the next room. Nothing has happened. Everything remains exactly as it was. I am I, you are you, and the old life we have lived so fondly together is untouched, unchanged, Whatever we were to each other, we are still. Call me by my old familar name. Speak of me in the way which you always used. Put no difference into your tone. Wear no forced air of solemnity or sorrow. Laugh as we always laughed at the little jokes we enjoyed together. Play, smile, think of me, pray for me. Let my name be ever the household word that it always was. Let it be spoken without an effort, without a host of a shadow upon it. Life means all that it ever meant. It is the same that it ever was.. There is absolute and unbroken continuity. What is death, but a negligible accident? Why should I be out of mind, because I am out of sight? I am but waiting for you, for an interval, somewhere vey near, just round the corner. All is well.
My sincere condolences, Natasha -grieving is so awful…
Stevie Nicks
Sorry to read about the loss of your father. Grief is hard to manage for most people but it is harder when you know you emotional and mental state can deteriorate very quickly. My son was diagnosed with autism 3 years ago. The unexpected grief that caused has taken over my life. I have never been more unstable than what the last 3 years has been. Experiencing grief causes every emotion and thought to be amplified.
I also face losing my parents in the next 10 years or so and they are very strained or non existent relationship that I don’t know how or the energy to resolve. I fear the day I receive that news and I am afraid how it will effect my already fragile mood.
I almost loss my dad to a stroke, lost my grandma 2 weeks later, and a good friend 3 weeks later. I handled everything “so well”, really I want dealing at all, using taking cadre of everyone else to push me into a manic state. And when I crashed several months later, everyone else had dealt with out and we’re on there warty to healing. No real advice, but lots of sympathy
I am so sorry for your loss.
I lost my mother to Cancer in 2000. She too, had Bipolar and she didn’t believe the diagnosis yet Bipolar is not what killed her. A tumor that started in her Lung moved into her brain.
Grief is hard to describe. It is what it is to each individual having to go through it. It can be short and painful or long and malingering. It can make you a stronger person or totally wipe you off your feet. There is NO wrong way to grieve and grief lasts as long as it lasts.
Grief is also normal and to grieve is normal. Bipolar does not make us “inhuman”. Being a human makes us vulnerable to that which pains, which a loss that is tremendous, will do.. pain us.
Allow yourself to grieve. If not; it will show up in the weirdest ways, at the most inopportune moments and perhaps even so many years after the loss. It permeates and intertwines, as long as you try to deny it. You will find yourself bawling suddenly, exhausted perhaps, loss of appetite, etc. all signs of grief. Grief CAN make you sicker and make your illness, deeper.
You know what the practical thing is: comfort those surrounding and take what comfort you can from them. Be gentle with yourself and seek your professional team’s advisement.
Grief takes time and the timetable is individualized… much like Bipolar.
I am very sad to hear what happened. You have my sincere condolences and compassion, Natasha.
I have Bipolar family members and God has taught me to exercise love and patience with them and your blog has greatly helped. Parents are very important to us. God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ, thank God, are eternal, and, once a person has trusted in the Lord Jesus Christ and His finished once-for-all sacrificial blood atonement and resurrection for eternal life, eternal salvation, that person is in God’s hands forever. And as the born again Christian’s Father, He promises to always keep us no matter what (John 10:27-29, John 5:24, Ephesians 1:13-14, Hebrews 13:5) and myself and others are here for you to comfort you as people.
I also want to thank you for taking a stand in support of the use of bipolar medication, because I have heard and seen far too many people, both among Christians and not, who are anti meds, and I have seen the “before and after” how prescribed medication for bipolar persons has helped stabilize them.
Perhaps you are also grieving his life, which sounds like a difficult one. I am so sorry for your loss. I lost my father in 2008, and I don’t think I’ll ever be done grieving. But once the acute phase is over, it takes its place in your life. All the common sense advice applies, you know it as well as I do. Be extra good to yourself and remember you are loved.
I am sorry for your loss. I lost my dad (also and alcoholic, bipolar not medicated) 5 years ago and my step father Fantastic guy my mom married when I was young 2 years ago. I find that doing small things that honor their memory as I did yesterday buying a snoopy t-shirt , snoopy was my dads favorite. We joke about the funny things about my step father how he didn’t eat pretty much anything that was healthy. Its hard I dissociated for a long time with my dad/stepdad but I found that when I was confronted with dealing with his death it made it harder so I forced myself to deal with it in small bits. Give yourself time to grieve now but then take some baby steps on working on dealing with the thought that he is no longer here. I will keep you in prayer.
Sorry for your loss. I have gone through the loss of both my in-laws who I was very close to and a good friend. I took time to cry and then tried to distract myself. The first month was very difficult for me. I was depressed and tired. As time went on I cried less and tried to move forward. But if I did have moments of grief I allowed it to happen. I didn’t try to fight it. Holidays were difficult. Memories were difficult. Now, If I think of them I feel fine and think about the good times I had with them. I also keep telling myself that someday I will see them again.
I am so sorry for your loss, Natasha, and I hope my experience can help you. I lost my father on a Sunday in June, 3 years ago. However, since I am so Sensitive (and Bipolar), my father fought Stage 4 Lung Cancer for 3 years, 1500 miles away, without telling me. He knew I couldn’t do anything about it and he didn’t want to burden me since everything is so much harder for me to deal with anyway because of my sensitivity. So, dying a terrible death,instead of going into Hospice for the last few days of his life, he bravely shot himself in the head instead. That way, the rest of my family, who all knew, wouldn’t have to be at his bedside and watch him die. So, this was a double whammy. I got the call from my brother, whom I had not spoken to during the 3 years of my father’s sickness, while he helped take care of him and I was completely shocked by the news. My Dad was dead and had been valiantly battling for 3 years without telling me. My brother was sobbing too and it was just terrible. I don’t know what I would have done had I not been at my boyfriend’s place. Grief sucks and it sucks even more if it is unexpected and the first loss you have experienced. I hadn’t even lost a cat before my Dad and to lose him and find out all of these things at once really shook me up. I made it through it and you will too. Also, grief is compounding so if you haven’t fully processed someone’s death and you lose someone else or your beloved pet, the same horrific feelings come up again and it hurts even more so process it now, if you can, instead of waiting even though I know how much it hurts to do so.
Grief is completely different than depression. Unlike depression, Grief comes and goes in waves, where depression is just that never-ending pit of despair. Your heart will break over the tiniest little story on FB and you will break into gut-wrenching sobs because your heart is blown so wide open because of the grief. In a way, grief can be a gift because it shows us how deeply we feel and that we have the ability to feel that way. Like any powerful emotion, we have the ability to feel it so much more strongly than the rest of the people who are not Bipolar. Love can blow your heart wide open too but it is much more pleasurable. Anyway, after I got back from the services, my grief made me feel really off and high, for some reason, so I tapered down off of my Effexor and went off of it because the last thing I needed was to be Grieving and Hypomanic.
The only positive thing that happened as a result of my Dad’s death is that I got my brother back into my life. We had a falling out and I think it was too hard for him to keep my Dad’s illness a secret so he just dropped me. I finally understood why and fortunately, due to my Grandmother’s death 2 weeks before my Dad’s (which no one told me about until 3 weeks later), my father and I had 1 last phone conversation where I flipped out on him for not telling me about her death. Intuitively, I must have known something was wrong so I told him I loved him and my brother and that was really out of character for me. My Dad and I never talked about feelings. He always ended our conversations by saying, “Take Care”.
So now it is 3 years later and it still hurts. Not as much, but it still does and he’s not coming back and that’s so final. Father’s Day sucks ( especially since it is 2 weeks after is Deathaversary every year) but it always sucked since we had a rocky relationship, but now it sucks and it hurts too. I still feel very angry and hurt that he didn’t tell me but I understand. He was trying to protect me, like Dad’s are supposed to do.
I hope that something positive comes from your Dad’s death. Maybe, like me, you have a sibling that you can reach out to and get closer with. I’m not sure if this post has helped and I’m sorry if it was “all about me” but I just want you to know, Natasha, that you are an incredibly brave and strong person and you will make it through just like you have made it through all of the other traumas and dramas that you have experienced. Just because you are grieving, you will not spiral into an episode. I didn’t. Once I saw what was happening to me, I adjusted my meds, and by being on the stabilizers and having support around me, I made it through the stages. I wish you the best and am so proud of the way you express yourself. You help others daily and I hope we can all return the favor when you need support too so thank you for sharing and being so brave. I repeat, You Will Make It Through This….
Talk to people. A lot. In between everything else you have to do. Keep talking, communicating, staying connected. It will go on for a long time. That’s ok.
Very sorry for your loss. There are no easy answers, and no right or wrong. But as someone skilled at working with and around her emotions, you will get through.
So sorry for your loss, Natasha. You are an exceptional person who helps so many – now we need to help you.
I’ve had a lot of losses too – this is what I’ve learned about grief:
We don’t really get to choose when to grieve – grief decides when to strike. It strikes by reminders and it comes in waves. When I’d see a man with my father’s eyes, or hear a man who could sing like him, or heard a Red Sox game on the radio…a faucet of tears would flow, & that ache of loss in my chest would follow. That’s how it was early on after he died. I thew myself back into my work & other things to stay occupied. That helped me a lot. I think you are doing the right thing right now, Natasha. This is why:
Purposeful dissociation is actually a component of denial, which is of course, the first stage of grief. And denial at this stage is a healthy defense mechanism – it serves as a buffer to soften the blow to our brain. Your mind is preventing this loss to hit you head on; it will overwhelm the delicate neurotransmitter dance. Your brain needs to process the loss at a slower pace so you’ll stay mentally healthier.
The other stages of grief will come – let them come at their own pace. Forget about that swift efficiency you believe you need. You have little or no control over those reminders – and yes, they will interrupt your schedule at times, but you will be able to deal with it better. You can’t fast forward the grief process.
Now when I see a man with my Dad’s eyes, I think of my Dad’s smiles & winks, and then I smile too. After the Red Sox won the Series in ’04, I went to visit my Dad’s grave, had a beer with him, and told him about the Series (in my inner dialogue.) We laughed and celebrated together 2 decades after his death. These kinds of things will happen to you too, in time. The good memories will come back and you’ll smile again too when you think of your Dad.
I’ll leave it there for now. The best of luck to you, Natasha.
Natasha, so sorry for your loss. It’s been a long time, about 13 years since I lost my dad and 20 since I lost my mom both to cancer. A death of a parent is never easy to handle, especially when you have bipolar disorder. You’re doing the right thing by talking about and expressing your concerns on your blog. By writing about it, you may be able to get some of your feelings sorted out and help others who are going through their own losses as well. Grief is a process and it isn’t something that anyone looks forward to, but it’s also a way for us to grow psychologically and spiritually. They are a few things that happened for me after my parents passed away. I was able to become closer to my dad and brother after my mom died….something I thought would never happen. I believe I also became a more empathetic person through the grief process. Make time for yourself to process everything and don’t forget to be kind to yourself. My condolences to you and best wishes.
I am losing my mom. I keep busy to keep from thinking
About it…and I do what you do. Don’t have any answers for you. My episodes have been more frequent because of it. Me
Lt downs and shut downs. Just keep going basicly I guess.
Cry when u need to. Keep going if u can but give yourself time
When you are able, to grieve. We are never prepared really to lose
People we care about, Natasha. Hugs to you and yours.
Sometimes it helps to post things about them you remember.
That is what I have been doing. Talking about themis often what we
Don’t do. People compare it to picking at a healing scab, but
To me, it is getting air to the wound so it won’t get infected,
After putting “neosporin” on it, whatever that can mean to you.
A bandaide isnt enough. A bandaide is distructive things we do
To cope, like drinking, smoking,overeating, etc. Know you are
Being thought of by those who are living it too. And prayers are
Sent your way, by those who also live with bipolar as well.
Grief pretty well sucks and I am sorry you have to go through it. Hang in there. Do what you need to to take care of yourself.
Hugz
My brother died by suicide when we were 23, 2 years after I started medication for my bipolar. I had a support system in place who I could use as sounding boards. I had trouble as I grieved with knowing what was ‘normal’ and when I was sinking to low and into the dangerous depressive cycle. My support system helped by expressing concern when it seemed my illness was starting to take over.
You need to allow yourself to grieve, but maybe only a little a day, as much as you can handle without starting the bipolar cycle. In my case I found it took me a very long time to go through the stages of grief, but that is because I could only do a little at a time, I was so afraid of getting sick and ending up hospitalized.
Everyone, and every death, can be a totally different experience.
It took me 8 years. And every year on the day of his death I allow myself to grieve again, then the next day I make myself suck it up, knowing next year I will have this day to grieve.
I found the stages of grief didnt always follow the order people are told they should, and sometimes you will go back a stage or two, then jump ahead again
I’m so sorry for your loss. I hope my sharing my experience is not harmful. I just wanted to share that even though it took me 8 years, and even though it’s now been 11 years it still hurts, I survived. I’m still here. I didn’t get sucked down to far into the depression. It is possible. You can do it, but it’s super shitty.
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So sorry for you loss!
The only thing I can think to tell you is set aside some time each day, to process the grief. Its should become less painful with time as you desensitize. Also recognize carrying on with your life is important so when you are not taking time to grieve it is “ok” to do other things and focus on other things. Its also ok to do some things to comfort yourself, like I personal take a long hot bath to calm my body.
I’m so very sorry for your loss. Words can’t really touch the grief we experience during profound loss, but knowing, and accepting, that people truly care might help in a very small way. Thank you for sharing your grief with us. As usual, putting yourself out there may help others. My husband’s parents are getting older and we will likely be going through this sooner rather than later. I am fearful for him. Death is hard for everyone, but those with bipolar will surely have a more difficult road to travel. Your words may help me help him through it. When we love someone it’s not uncommon to not be yourself for a while after their loss. Forgive yourself from handling it ‘weirdly’. I know you’re afraid, but pushing yourself to get over it too soon will only prolong the stages. Try your best to openly talk to friends and loved ones that know you well and let them help you. My heart goes out to you and will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.
Sorry to hear, Natasha. My Mom died in January, and I went into a tailspin of mania/hypomania, compulsive eating, and irritability (understatement)
I think I’m 80% past it now, but at this point I am trying to figure out how to lose the 50 pounds, and I’m trying with all my resources to avoid triggers.
If you have a therapist, I think that might help. I haven’t had one for years, and now I think I should have had one. My psychiatrist has been great, but all the meds tweaking only dulled the moods a bit, instead of erasing them.
I apologise if this is too much of a downer post. Keep well, and try to remember that you need to take care of YOU first. If you need help with that, I am sure you’ll know how and who to ask; you have a lot of caring readers here, if nothing else.
Natasha,
Please accept my condolences.
My Dad passed in 2009, and I didn’t think I would survive it.
I didn’t get into a stable relationship until I was 39 in 1999.
Please forgive me for my economy of words.
I have that bi-polar thing of lack of expression.