Also known as: I’m Mad at the Jungle
People don’t like it when I get angry. They don’t like it when I rant. On my very own blog. On the internet. Sheesh people, I am human you know.
And I’m not an angry kind of person. I have a theory about why you shouldn’t be angry and I try to use the idea that there is no reason to be angry, and allow anger to roll off my back. It usually works. [push]One might suggest it would be absolutely nutty not to rant. Pixels, it seems, breed ire.[/push]
But I think all sick people have a right to be angry. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not a good idea to live in that anger. It’s not a good idea to spread that anger. But for fuck’s sake, you’ve been given a life-long mental illness that requires too many doctors and debilitating psychiatric medication. You have the right to be a little angry about that.
I’m Angry at My Brain
But there is a problem with being mad at bipolar – there’s really no one to yell at. It’s really hard to yell at your brain. It never seems to work. It morphs into yelling at yourself; which isn’t the point at all.
I’m Mad at the Jungle
A couple of weeks ago I was fairly catatonic with depression. And so, not moving, I watched many of the shows on my PVR; one of which is called Off the Map. There was the following scene:
A woman comes upon a girl angrily cutting her way through the jungle with a machete. The woman asks her if she’s angry. The girl says yes, she’s angry at the jungle.
The girl is sleeping with a beautiful man whose wife is in a coma. He feels ever-so-guilty about seeing anyone else even though his wife’s condition hasn’t changed in four years. He told the girl when they started seeing each other it would always be casual and he would never commit. But the girl, naturally, fell in love with him anyway.
So the girl, hacking away with the machete, says she can’t be mad at the man for being withholding, because he always said he would be, she can’t be mad at the wife, as she’s in a coma; so, she’s mad at the jungle.
See, I’m mad at the jungle.
I’m Angry at My Life with Crazy
There is no point in being mad at bipolar, depression, hypomania or crazy: they’re not going anywhere. There’s no point in being angry with medications and nasty side effects as they are what they are. There’s no point in being angry with “evil” doctors because they’re doing the best they can. And there’s no point at being mad at the effects crazy has on my life as that’s not going anywhere either.
So I’m mad at the jungle.
(Granted, there’s no jungle around these parts and I don’t own a machete, but I love the phrase.)
I’m Angry at Stones on the Beach
A typical therapy suggestion is to go to the beach, envision a stone as whatever you’re angry with, or your anger in general, and throw the stone into the water as far as you can.[1]
Arg. Therapy annoyance.
I have tried this, and many similar things over the years but it doesn’t make anything change at all. Not a thing. Ever. I suspect that’s because there’s always new pain with bipolar disorder. Bipolar never passes. Mood disorders just kind of hang around fucking up your life.
I’m Mad at the Jungle
So, as I understand there is no real cause or cure for my anger, I try to just let it be. I feel strongly that the anger deserves acknowledgment. Then I let it go. I say “hi” now and then, and wave goodbye.
But I’m mad at the jungle will be my new catchphrase. Because fuck it if I don’t just feel that way sometimes.[2] And I think that’s reasonable.
Natasha,
Thank you! This article pretty much savedm me this week. Just reading it again. It makes me feel so much better.
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Thank you Natasha for being so open and honest. Your writings help me to understand my son who is bi-polar.
I feel anger and grief lately about the life I wanted to live and now can’t because of bipolar. Struggling to move past the grief.
I have bipolar disorder it so happen I used a veteran medical center for all my care but I get angry when they make a medical or mental mistakes it doesn’t show up in my Veteran Records I can understand clerical mistakes but I always get angry at Medical or Mental mistakes so whomever reading this is their a program hopefully to deal with this issue I have …..please……I lived in Prescott Valley, Arizona. ……Thanks
In your footnote you said your increased anger was due to a med change…other than the med change anger, were you experiencing anger before in an elevated way?
Hi
I was in a relationship with a bipolar girlfriend
Almost a year now I love her so much, it even hurts right this moment
She dumped me and went for somebody else, but am not sure
If it’s her or the bipolar, I thought she would push me away but not
Like this, we’ve through thick and thin all the memories we shared are just
Forgotten in 3 weeks of meeting another person.
I had always said that if i lost control of my mind i would not want to live, about 5 mths ago i was diagnosed bipolar 1 with psychotic episodes. I am on meds but i hate them, i hate my mind and i guess in a sense i have lost control of my mind, i am 52 and too old for this shit, my life sucks and is a mess, i am tired
thank u Natasha u always capture how I feel or have felt and put it into words which helps a lot. I loved reading ur latest interview keep on truckin girlfriend.
You inspire me over & over, honestly. I’ve mostly suffered from Depression, given Bipolar 2. I’ve managed to learn from. My trials, make a decent life, and bring positive meaning to my illness by using what it has taught me to help others. As you do, very effectively. Take care of you. You’re important, and valuable. You matter to lots of people. Do you believe it?
Hi Greg,
On my good days I believe it, yes. Not every day is a good day though.
– Natasha Tracy
Thanks for reminding me I’m not alone. I’m in a hell pit of depression and my 3 meds are clearly not enough. I swear I wish I could trade in my brain. I have completely irrational thoughts and feelings and reactions to normal life stressors. I cannot even put my hair iron back in the cabinet. I’m just sitting there staring at it. It’s too daunting. And I’m lonely. I may have many more days of this torture, or wake up tomorrow with a new lease on life and be ready to take on the world. One never knows when it comes to my moods. They flip that fast and unpredictably. Lucky me. Full of surprises.
Unbalanced enough to be termed BPD since I was 23 years old. Now Im 52 years old… having this sort of adult life-I am very angry at the Jungle..too..
Im a female who also suffers from bi polar illness. I found your insight quite interesting, yet, a truely accurate account of how I feel sometimes. I just wanted to say, I feel your pain.
Thanks for sharing Gina. None of us are alone out here. :)
– Natasha Tracy
I totally agree!!! It rings all my bells haha! Its sooo bad to be angry with everything! The worst thing is thay I can’t control I’ll and the ones we love or those who try to help us they get the worst part, being bipolar and angry really sucks wish there was a “chill pill” that could fix that sometimes I’m scared of myself but this kind of things help a lot, at least I know that I’m not the only one like this!
Hi Astrid,
I’m happy to remind people they are not alone, even in times of irrational anger. And sometimes, just knowing that takes some of the anger away.
– Natasha Tracy
Hello, I just wanted to say that I TOTALLY understand and agree with u! This anger is crazy intense and equally scary! There are so many times when I just wanna scream “FUCK U WORLD!” For no apparent reason! I have to warn people when I’m in that mood because I don’t wanna have to “Go Bipolar on their ass”!I hate this illness and have a hrad time not mistakenly hating myself. It is so comforting to read ur blog and know that I’m not as alone as I feel! Thanks for venting! I am angry at the jungle too!
I resonate so much with this. Anger is the biggest hurdle for me. The sadness can be all consuming but the rage, the fire is what hurts me and my family the most. You are so right though it’s how you look at that anger and where it’s placed. Great post!!!
Thanks Meandmybipolarbear,
Angers hard for many people, so you’re not alone there. And you’re right, it can hurt you and the people around you a lot. Hopefully you can learn some tools to deal with your anger, perspective is definitely one, but counselling may be able to help you with others. Often our anger hides something deeper and therapy can help reveal it for you.
– Natasha Tracy
I fully agree with you Natasha, nothing good ever comes from bipolar. It cost me two wives,and four womem I was dating since then. It gave me two bankruptcies and two car repo’s. It cost me a career by not reenlisting in our Navy, and two jobs since then. Joined a church, and priest sent me to a good lawyer, so I’m on disability – I also get 3 – 5 migraines a month. SS judge made someone managing my money a requirement to get disability. with Mom and the church working together for four years I had a roof over my head and food while waiting on SS.
So, see anythig good in this before I got disability? I sure don’t.
Oh, sure… We’ve a *right* to be angry. It’s *valid* to be angry. It’s *natural* and *reasonable* to be angry… but
How does this serve me?
Does it actually help, to get angry? (Sometimes, yes.)
Does it improve my life? (Not my experience of it, but it can help motivate me to making improvements.)
Does it get me what I want? (Indirectly only… there are a lot of other ways to get what I want w/o anger)
I’m only going to hold on to my anger as long as it’s useful to me. Otherwise, I’m just adding more negative crap to my already huge pile of shit. I don’t need to go around all chipper and saccharine… that’s not respecting the situation. But I also don’t have to be angry any longer than I have to. Anger feels powerful, and I desperately need a sense of power and control over my life, but anger is just a feeling. It’s not the actual *ability* of power and control. That I have to get elsewhere.
It’s times like these that I love my gangsta rap… Jay-Z’s “99 Problems (but a bitch ain’t one) is one of my favorites. (“Not a bitch in the sense of having a pussy, but a pussy making no goddamn sense; try and push me.”) Hard Knock Life is another great one, along with On to the Next One…
It’s not that we don’t want you to feel angry. We’re not saying that your anger isn’t justified. We just want to help :^)
Hi PamC,
Oh, you’re right, a prolonged anger phase doesn’t really help anyone – but that’s just it, it’s a _phase_ (or it should be). Prolonged anger doesn’t help you but acknowledging anger is important. It’s important to express. I think it does help. For a time. It’s not an every moment thing but is it a sometimes thing? Yes!
Some people may have that experience once and be done with it but for more people it comes up again and again and you can express it at that time and move on. The expression matters.
– Natasha Tracy
Acknowledging it is only good to a point. Letting it go and NOT thinking about it is *far* more important.
Here’s the guy with the science and the program. It’s only 21 days… you could try it for 21 days, and then afterwards if you’re not satisfied, you can go back to feeling however you want.
You can curse the darkness, or you can try to light a candle. Does it make the darkness go away? No… but perhaps it will give you just enough light to see your way through.
Oops! Sorry… link didn’t post… http://www.ted.com/talks/view/lang/en//id/1344
Hi PamC,
That’s what you fundamentally don’t understand. It’s not about “feeling any way I want.” People don’t manufacture feelings, they _feel_ them. It’s why people don’t choose who they fall in love with. If they did, we’d all pick someone appropriate and likely to make us happy. But we don’t. We fall in love with all kinds of people at all sort of inappropriate moments because feelings _happen_ they are not chosen.
You can choose what to do about your feelings, but that is a different matter entirely.
– Natasha Tracy
Feelings aren’t facts. You can feel the feelings and not *respond* to them. You don’t have to react. You can choose to act.
http://www.ted.com/talks/rory_sutherland_perspective_is_everything.html?utm_source=newsletter_weekly_2012-05-08&utm_campaign=newsletter_weekly&utm_medium=email
So I haven’t been actually diagnosied with bipolar but I have for major depression and social anxiety. Doctors won’t diagnose me with bipolar yet I have severe mood swings. From happy and on top of the world to extremely pissed off to the point I can’t control my actions and black out to be so depressed and staring off into space.
I blacked out at my soon to be brother-in-laws wedding and acted out in violance cause everyone was up in my face screaming at me and holding me down (thanks for the million and one bruises that are still showing up weeks later). Anyway they refuse to talk to me now and the family keeps telling me that I don’t have any respect for their family and they are now threatening to get a restraining order on me. But I don’t remember one fucking thing for god sacks. Some of the family is telling me that I don’t deserve forgiveness and trying to convince my fiancé not to marry this nightmare of a girl. And others are saying that they don’t want anything to do with me unless I call them and apologize the way they see fit that I should. Only for my fiance’s sack did I apologize but now I fucking regret it. If someone had been PHYSICALLY ill at their wedding they would not ha e asked for an apology but because it’s a mental illness somehow its fucking different. I’m so fucking sick off being labeled as crazy. I’m sick of the damn pills I have to take everyday and I’m sick of being treated as being less then human for my fucking illness!
I don’t know what to do anymore!
H Christine,
I can definitely understand your frustration. And you’re right, someone with a perceived physical illness will get treated differently than a person with a mental illness and of course, this isn’t fair.
One thing I will say though is that it is OK to apologize when you hurt someone. You might not have meant to, you might not have been in control, but apologizing is still understandable and might help sooth over a difficult situation. I’ve apologized for things the illness has done. Not because I’m sorry about what the illness did as it wasn’t my fault, but because I was sorry that I hurt others. That’s never my intention and it’s something that needs correcting when it does happen.
One thing that stands out in your story is this: Are you getting therapy? If I were in your situation I would certainly seek out a qualified therapist because blacking out is extremely unusual.
And I hope you’re explaining all this to your doctor as well so that your medications can be altered in response. I know it can take a long time for that to work, but it has to be done.
Well wishes with you.
– Natasha Tracy
I found this blog post by typing ‘f***ing up your life due to bipolar’ in google because, well…that’s what I feel I have done. Last time it happened because I didn’t realise in time that I was going catatonic, and hence endured three years of recovery. This time it happened because I recognised all the symptoms and hence withdrew from my life activities, my plans in order to save myself from a potentially very dangerous situation. And now I can’t help feeling angry because there is no way of knowing what would of happened if I’d kept going. I’ll never know if everything I gave up was worth it or not. That’s bipolar for you. Everyone, doctors, family tell you how you should live your life. What pills you should take, what relaxation or bullshit breathing exercises you should do in order to be like everyone else. It’s one big jungle alright.
Hi Jennifer,
I can certainly see that you’re feeling angry and feel bipolar has been very negative in your life. You definitely aren’t the only one.
Catatonia is an extremely difficult condition to treat (as you know). Hopefully you can find a way to avoid catatonia in the future, if that’s possible for you.
“And now I can’t help feeling angry because there is no way of knowing what would of happened if I’d kept going. I’ll never know if everything I gave up was worth it or not.”
I know.
I have a very regimented life and live within many rules for the bipolar and I’ll never know if it’s worth it. I have to think that it is, but as you said, I’ll never know.
All I can say is that I try to make the best decision I can today and know I can make another one tomorrow. No one’s life is certain, mentally well or not. So it’s just a day-by-day thing.
But it’s OK to be Mad at the Jungle. We all need to express that once in a while. We deserve it.
– Natasha Tracy
Natasha,
I enjoyed this post. I love your analogies! I am sorry you’re so angry at everything right now. It seems that writing does help you release some of that anger. I hope your med levels even out so it doesn’t consume you with anger. That’s rather unfortunate. Have you tried stress balls? I like squeezing them every so often, but they’re not for everyone. I hope you find something that’s good for you!
Take care,
Jess
I’m sure you know how this works … sometimes I feel like I can be something like normal, and maybe get something constructive from therapy, and make a real effort to deal the anger and depression and self-hate … and sometimes it all just washes over me in a giant wave, and I want nothing more than to let myself drown.
For me, the worst part about bipolar is that you get a sliver of hope in between episodes. There are days when I can almost forget to be sad and disconnected and broken. I love those days; I try to enjoy those days when they happen. But I also know at the end of that day, that another spiral is coming, I can hear it coming for me, and there’s nothing I can do but be fucking miserable while I ride it out and try to not do anything irreversible.
Hi Rob,
Yup, I do know how it works. Brains change from day to day. It’s hard to keep up.
“the worst part about bipolar is that you get a sliver of hope in between episodes. There are days when I can almost forget to be sad and disconnected and broken. I love those days; I try to enjoy those days when they happen. But I also know at the end of that day, that another spiral is coming, I can hear it coming for me, and there’s nothing I can do but be fucking miserable while I ride it out and try to not do anything irreversible.”
That is brilliantly said and unfortunately true. I actually wrote about it here: http://www.healthyplace.com/blogs/breakingbipolar/2010/07/the-rhythm-of-pain-during-depression/
I wish I had an answer for that one. But I feel the same way. Cruel hope given only to be destroyed.
I suppose all I can say is that I’m here too. We’re here too. Perhaps there’s some solace in that.
– Natasha
new reader here … I have so many thoughts about this post, and the comments (especially Massiyat), but I’ll limit myself to this:
I’m not mad at bipolar or doctors or chemical imbalances. I’m mad at the world for sucking the life out of me and making me feel like I am a prisoner to money, responsibility, and others’ expectations. I’m angry at injustices, arrogant assholes, religion, politics, the CAPS LOCK button. When I look at things semi-objectively, I realize there are so many things that piss me off because I’ve forgotten how to see the good in life, and in myself. Mostly I’m angry with myself, for all my losses and failures and weaknesses.
I have all this anger stored up, but no healthy way to release it. I try my best to hide it all inside, but I know I’ve failed miserably. When the Beast gets out, I hurt people I love. One little push, one final straw, and I explode. I scream at my kids for their mistakes, when I really blame myself for them. I throw things and break things and bash things with a baseball bat because I can’t hurt the person who made me so angry, even though I can see their face when I destroy something.
When the anger subsides, the shame and self-loathing floods over me. I want to run away to protect my family, because I think they are better without me. It is in those moments when I am most dangerous to myself.
Of course this lasts until the next mood swing, then it’s a crapshoot again.
Hi Rob,
Welcome. Glad to meet you. Feel free to share as you please.
I think you’ve hit it on the head (if you will). You’re angry with yourself and so you see it everywhere.
If I may be so bold, it sounds like your illness is manifesting that anger. I tend to get upset and cry, myself, but some people find the anger overwhelming. It makes you normal. It’s part of the illness.
You haven’t failed, you just haven’t found a healthy way to deal with this yet. You’ve identified the problem, so you’re on your way.
The biggest thing about anger is that angry people don’t understand they are angry or _why_ they’re angry. They think they’re angry at whatever is in front of them that they’re yelling at. But they’re not. There’s something else in side that’s creating that anger.
And you got it right again, that anger bleeds into shame and self-loathing. You hated yourself so you got angry elsewhere. Which made you hate yourself. That’s depression if ever I saw it.
You’re absolutely right, you need to do better, for yourself and for your kids. Get some therapy. They’ll have some ideas on what to do with that anger. (There could be side effect issues too, depending on your situation.)
But try to give yourself a break too. Nobody’s perfect. Just make a tiny step today. And then you’ll make another tomorrow.
I know what it is to be dangerous to yourself. I know what that feels like. I know how it crawls and itches and scrapes. But if you know that you’re working on what’s wrong, that will give you something to hold onto. Because I can guarantee, no one is thinking the world would be better without you. Just without your anger.
– Natasha
I think acknowledging the anger is good. I tried for years to suppress my anger and usually the anger would end up directed towards myself. I would just implode suddenly once it reached a certain level. LIke you said, I don’t dwell on the anger. I say hi, we have tea, and then I move on. It’s nice to have a visit every once in awhile. That is why I started my blog. It’s my “darkness”. It’s a very small part of me but it is a part of me and if I ignore it, then it also implodes so by having it and acknowledging occasionally it doesn’t implode or if it does then it doesn’t have the same power or strength as it would have if I hadn’t been letting it out every now and then.
But when people come to my blog, that is all they see. Darkness. They don’t realize that it is only 1% of who I am. It seems to me people do that to you. They look at what you write as if it is you in your entirety, but reading a person’s writing or blog is like looking at the world through the eye of a needle. That is really all you are able to see.
Hi Maasiyat,
“hey look at what you write as if it is you in your entirety, but reading a person’s writing or blog is like looking at the world through the eye of a needle.”
That is very true. I’m a writer. Therefore, I write about a lot of things. But like most people, I am very complex. To write everything I think about an issue would take more words than I have time or space for. One piece is simple one moment and one tiny piece of my brain.
But when you’re a public writer, everyone thinks they know you. Which is OK. There are benefits to that. There are also occasional downsides.
– Natasha
I was actually raped, too (victim seems to be a common place to be with mental illness as I hear…), but no one suggested I throw stuff for that. Just that I cry and talk it out. That didn’t work, so I yelled and threw things on my own. Throwing things did help some with that because, like you said, hopefully I won’t have that experience again so I could get it out of my system with (a lot of) work.
I angrily scream “fuck” a good bit. Doesn’t seem to do much for me because I do it a lot, but I hope one day you get to because that first time screaming it loudly is a nice release. After a few times…eh.
Good that you escaped the anger streak. It doesn’t play well with bipolar at all.
I love the “mad at the jungle” example. Whoever wrote that was brilliant.
Ah, anger management therapy. It’s helped with little things like “I’m mad I broke a shoe” or “my husband is annoying today” but not so much with “my brain is broken” problems. I stopped throwing things as a therapy because I found I didn’t contain it to rocks when I was manic. I do hit or throw pillows sometimes. Good for daily anger problems. Not so when I get to being mad at my lot in life.
I’ve been known to yell, “fuck” on occasion. One day I hope to scream it in great and furious anger. But so far, no luck. I’m really just not an angry person, in general.
In my case it wasn’t anger management therapy as much as it was get-over-rape therapy. You throw things then too. Which is OK. Because to the best of my knowledge the guy/experience is not coming back. Bipolar, on the other hand. Well, it’s the gift that keeps on giving.
– Natasha
me, too.
You’re doing a great job, friend.
xo
Hi Shannon,
Well then, feel free to adopt the saying. I think it’s brilliant. (I can say that without sounding conceited seeing as I stole it from somewhere else.)
“You’re doing a great job, friend.”
Thank-you. Stumbling tumultuously forward, as usual.
– Natasha
Well said. I just re-started therapy after a year, and I’m not yet at the “visualization” parts yet. Right now I think I’m just blowing her mind with my life and all the random thoughts that inhabit it.
I’m angry at my brain too. I want the very thing that makes me who I am to cooperate and let me be who I am-without the stupid mental illness getting in the way! You’re supposed to be my friend, asshole! (Oh, I”m yelling at my brain, not you. Promise)
hed hed above water
Hi hed,
Well, I might suggest that your brain only has something to do with who you are but doesn’t _make_ you who you are.
You see, you have your mind for that. The brain is really just a big multi-processor that’s doing the math for the mind. A rather broken processor, but one nonetheless.
And yes, brains are supposed to be friendly. But alas, you can’t pick your parents and you can’t pick your brain.
– Natasha