The pros and cons of electroconvulsive therapy (ECT) are actually quite numerous but in this post I will try to, unbiasedly, lay out the basic pros and cons for anyone considering ECT as a treatment. I am likely uniquely qualified to do this as I am very educated about ECT (Yes, I still have that book in the works. Did I mention I’m really busy?) and I’ve also had ECT. This does not mean it’s right for everyone, however. Do consider the pros and cons of electroconvulsive therapy carefully before you make your own mind up with the help of a doctor.
Are There Actually Pros to ECT?
Some people will tell you that ECT is evil and there are no benefits worth the side effects. Some people will tell you that ECT is inhumane and should be banned. Some people say that anyone who gets ECT is submitting to some form of assault.
All of this is poppycock.
Now, back in 2009, before I had ECT, I felt, very strongly, that it was barbaric and I couldn’t believe that anyone could possibly get that treatment in this day and age. At one point I swore to myself that I would suicide before I allowed someone to induce a seizure in me.
These statements, while accurate in feeling, were dramatically inaccurate in knowledge. I was speaking and feeling out of ignorance. Most people do, on the subject of ECT. The very notion of it is unbelievably scary (to everyone) and people have a right to feel that fear. It’s pretty normal.
But, mark my words, ECT can have great benefits. ECT is nothing like sticking your finger in a light socket (as some people would crudely say). ECT is a medical procedure, nothing more and nothing less.
The Pros of ECT
We’ll start with the pros for ECT.
- ECT can act extremely quickly altering a person’s mood in as little as one treatment (although, on average, taking about 9-12).
- ECT is the most effective known treatment for depression with remission rates of 50-80% (give or take depending on the study), even for treatment-resistant depression. Studies consistently show it to be much higher than any medication.
- ECT does not require medication alteration (for the vast majority).
- ECT does not have the same kind of side effects as medication so it’s safe to use in situations where a patient can’t take medication like when they are elderly, pregnant or breast-feeding.
- ECT seems unbelievably effective in treating catatonia with a success rate of over 90% in those, severe cases.
- ECT is typically covered by insurance (I wish that weren’t a factor for people but, let’s face it, it is).
- Ketamine can actually be used as the anaesthetic during ECT and this may improve effectiveness even more (this is a controversial point and while I suspect it’s true, there isn’t enough research to fully support that conclusion).
All that being said, let’s not forget no treatment works for everyone and, for the record, ECT didn’t work for me. I’d also like to note that some people actually prefer ECT over all other treatments. Yes, it’s that successful and painless for some.
One other factor that is an ECT pro and con is that typically, unilateral ECT is tried first (there are fewer side effects) but if that isn’t effective, a stronger form of ECT (bilateral) can be tried. It’s a pro because it’s an option but it’s a con because of the increased side effects.
The Cons of ECT
Coming with the pros of ECT, there are cons, however.
- ECT can produce physical pain during the treatment. This is muscular and has to do with the invoked seizure, the anaesthesia or both. Headaches are common. This pain is typically easily treated with over the counter medications or, in some cases, prescribed medication like acetaminophen with codeine.
- ECT tends to cause memory loss from the time around the procedure. You may not remember weeks around the procedure. (Note that overall, memory may actually improve when depression improves.)
- ECT tends to create some cognitive deficits during treatment. These cognitive deficits have been shown to go away between 1-6 months after treatment ends.
- You have all the risks of undergoing anaesthesia, just like with any other minor procedure in which it is used.
- The more ECT you do and the more bilateral ECT you do, the greater your risk of side effects like memory loss.
- The positive effects of ECT may be short-lived leaving you with the choice as to whether to have ECT again. (Doctors try to prevent this by selecting medication for you when you get better that will keep you better.) Some people do choose to receive maintenance ECT.
Your chances of dying during ECT are the same as that for any procedure using anaesthesia – in other words, extremely, extremely small. I’ve never even heard of a case of this but I’m sure it happens. Your risk of death is actually less, by an order of magnitude, during ECT than it is when you’re just walking around your apartment in everyday life (presumably because in everyday life you don’t have qualified professionals ready to help you if something goes wrong).
I must also say that some people claim to have lost large chunks of memory from ECT. According to the research I’ve done this is virtually never seen but I do feel compelled to mention it. Keep in mind that these people have typically had many, many rounds of ECT and many of them were decades ago when we weren’t nearly as educated about how to minimize the side effects of ECT.
Weighing the Pros and Cons of ECT
When you weigh the pros and cons of ECT please try to do so without listening to fringe hate groups. Anyone who tells you that ECT is always good or always bad is wrong – don’t listen to them.
Instead, try to weigh ECT pros and cons for yourself and consider your own life, illness and situation. Get advice from a doctor who performs ECT that you like and is reputable (get a referral from your current psychiatrist). (I say that because not all psychiatrists know all the facts about ECT. Talking to someone with clinical experience is very important).
Make sure you ask lots of questions about every, single thing you are worried about. Don’t go into this procedure with unasked questions. Feel free to question everything I’ve said. I don’t mind. Your question-asking is very, very healthy.
And finally, know that ECT is infinitely superior to death. I’ve had it, it didn’t work, it hurt and I can still say that. So while I would never push anyone into a treatment like ECT, if it’s that or suicide, pick ECT. There is always time for death later.
More on electroconvulsive therapy can be found in the links I’ve provided above and in this Medscape section.
* I shouldn’t have to say this, but I will: I have no financial stake in anything to do with ECT. I have no conflict of interest here. My opinions are my own.
Natasha. You mention ECT did not work for you. Are you comfortable sharing what did?
Hi Cathy,
Thanks for your question.
I choose not to disclose my specific treatment plan as it may influence people in ways I don’t want. I also consider it private.
I will say, though, I currently am on a complex cocktail that includes antipsychotic, anticonvulsant and antidepressant medication. It’s finding the right mix that has been most successful. It’s increadibly difficult, but eventually, it happened.
– Natasha Tracy
My 1st ECT tx will be in 2 days. I did preop today. I am scared after ready all of this. People think I am crazy for trying this, but I don’t have any other alternatives as I have tried them all. Been in bed for 4 years, so I don’t care if I forget that period of my life. Pray for me! Shelly
Long term memory loss is not taken seriously by the online commentaries I’ve read by pdocs. But I had that from less than 10 treatments, and I have met others. I think it’s much more common than stated by pdocs.
I’m curious how long headaches are suppose to last, it has been 14 months since my last treatment, although I have improved in many areas the headaches continue.
Hi Isa,
I’ve never heard of headaches lasting that long. If I were you, I definitely be taking it seriously and be talking to a doctor, or getting a second opinion if the one you’re seeing isn’t helping.
– Natasha Tracy
Hi all,
Note: I am running a survey on real patients’ experiences with, and perspectives on, electroconvulsive therapy (ECT). If you’ve had ECT and want your voice heard, please take the survey here. https://natashatracy.com/treatment/neurostimulation-treatment/ect/real-patient-experiences-ect-perspectives-ect/
– Natasha Tracy
experiencing after ECT symptoms, Doctors say it is unusual, trying to find feedback from others, If they have experienced similar symptoms after ECT.
my symptoms are increasing intensity headaches as days go by, it is not migraines, they are different and physical tiredness not mental tiredness, not doing anything different physically wise than my normal routine.
thank you for any feedback, it will be appreciated
How about lobotomies? Can you do a pros and cons list of that psychiatric procedure? Thanks in advance!
ECT is a procedure that causes brain damage. The word “therapy” is ludicrous. The T stands for terror and trauma. If one checks Peter Breggin’s website one can find references to numerous studies that show ECT causes brain damage and is the equivalent of an electrical lobotomy.
Bentall and Read’s 2010 literature review of the “efficacy of electroconvulsive’therapy'” comes to the conclusion that: “Given the strong evidence of persistent and, for some, permanent brain dysfunction, primarily evidenced the form of anterograde and retrograde amnesia, and the evidence of a slight but significant risk of death, the cost-benefit analysis is SO POOR that its use CANNOT be scientifically justified.” ECT is dangerous and unpredictable. It is the equivalent of an electrical lobotomy, causing damage to the frontal lobes of the brain. It increases the risk of developing epilepsy, PTSD, and Alzheimer’s disease. We are becoming aware of the cost of repeated injuries to athletes with repeated head concussions but “doctors” will shock pregnant women and grandmothers multiple times, causing closed head injury concussions and electrical damage and call it a “treatment”.
Robertson and Pryor (2007) point out that patients need to be fully informed of the “permanent adverse effects of the treatment, which include amnesia, memory disability, and cognitive dysfunction.” They note “collectively, the comments of people who have had ECT indicate loss of complex skills that underlie real-world roles such as student, professor, nurse, or physicist, and often inability to return to those roles post-ECT.”
Mangaoang and Lucey (2007) argue that the “cognitive rehabilitative techniques that are used with BRAIN INJURED patients should be considered for use with patients experiencing memory and/or cognitive disability following ECT”. Basically, they suggest that ECT injured patients should be informed in advance that their TBI’s may require “structured treatment”. Seriously. The authors are pointing out ways to “treat” brain damaged ECT patients to “improve their functioning”? How about not delivering brain damaging ECT?”. Linda Andre’s book “doctors of Deception” clearly and methodically outlines the reasons ECT should be banned.
Anyone considering ECT should google “ECT and brain damage” or “ECT destroyed my life”. Zapping the lovely, delicate, but tormented minds of patients is a crime against humanity and an obvious human rights violation.
I agree ect is a viable treatment, like mediction selection, and must be evaluated individually. ECT for me, too, is extremely helpful with my depression. 4x hospitalization and ect several series. I am seeing some memory issues, cognitive difficulties. Previously, I stopped ect and did not do any maintenance. This time, I am tapering to maintenance. At 1/wk currently. Being surrounded by loving and truly supportive people.
One question…. Where is the data for this therapy and I wonder why they call it therapy.. The data is hidden. We measure everything.. It is very easy to measure data from hospitals and it is measured.. Why not release it. Maybe becuase it is an amazing money maker. Insurance companies love it becuase it can be cheaper in the long run and hospitals and doctors love it becuase of the vast amounts of money they make. So, where is the data other than anecdotal so we the customer can make an informed decision. Why is it being withheld from us?
I don’t understand why you think there is no data on the effectiveness of ECT. Try Google-ing “efficacy of ECT” and you will find numerous links to documents, many academic, on this very subject. Here are just a few:
https://www.power2u.org/downloads/1012-ReadBentallECT.pdf
http://psychcentral.com/lib/dr-sarah-lisanby-on-ect/7265/
http://www.ect.org/resources/efficacy.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15087991
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroconvulsive_therapy
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22420590
“CONCLUSION:
ECT appears to be equally effective for both bipolar and unipolar depression and the remission rates are encouraging, especially for bipolar depression.” (Dated 2012, so it’s very recent.)
http://www.hindawi.com/journals/np/2015/521398/
TRACY NOTE, the last one is interesting because it also deals with the effectiveness of MST as well as ECT. Perhaps you might write a piece about MST?
Harry
Ok there is data. I dont trust data at all when it comes to my brain. Especially the great data with the toxic chemicals that have put my kidneys in jeopardy and my liver. I have the data my Pdoc whose associate has been doing ECT and researching the effects for about 35 years has told me. Stay away. Not worth the risk. No argument here. I choose not to take the risk based on the multitude of cocktails that were supposed to help me, the physical toll these drugs have taken on my body and I no longer have any faith whatsoever in the mental hell industry. Apparently its not working for many of us becuase Natasha had to devote a blog post regarding suicide. Be well.
Hi Michael
Being well would be nice but right now I am unstable. The smallest things kick me into tears, but I’m not reaching for razor blades! Not yet! I think a bout of flu has pushed me off balance, not that I was amazingly stable beforehand.
Actually, my inexpert reading of some of the ECT data is that not all the scientists agree about the effectiveness of ECT. One thing that stuck out, however, is that it tends to work for most people, at least for a while, but that people who are already drug treatment resistant, it doesn’t do anything like as well as it does for those for whom drugs do work, at least to some effect. But not all seem to agree here, and not all agree with the long-term effects on the brain. Well, I know from personal experience (as I gather do you also) that the drug treatments can affect us badly. In my case, it was the prescription of the wrong type of anti-depressant that kicked me into the mother of all dysphoric manias. That was a decade ago and I’ve not worked since! During that interval, I’ve been prescribed a different variety of drugs, at least one of which caused lethargy, to overlay the natural lethargy that comes with depression, and weight-gain, resulting in diabetes. Of course, the pDocs never explain about the possible side-effects – I had to find out those for myself. I complain about them now, but if I look back, at the time when I began taking them, I didn’t care what it was I stuffed into my mouth, just so long as it would be something that would take that “pain” away. If longer-term damage arises (and it has) at least the treatment allows me some measure of a quality life, whereas there was no quality of life at all, not one bit, without the treatment. I guess it’s the same with ECT. Maybe it will cause harm, and maybe it won’t – we won’t know until we’ve tried it. But if it makes Life worth living, at least for a little longer, where life would otherwise not be, then it has to be a treatment worth considering. But I’m not at that stage, so it’s not a choice I must make – at least, not yet. :)
Harry,
We have much in common.. I wish you peace. . I cycle at least 3 times per DAY and am becoming drug resistant. I live in purgatory…
Hi Michael,
Almost every point I’ve listed has a link to the study that verifies the point/stat and so on. The data is not hidden. ECT is the _most_ studied treatment in history and there is no shortage of data on it.
– Natasha Tracy
I am a Scientist, I believe an addition of 10cc of Dank Memes in addition to the normal ECT treatment. The memes will enter his/her bloodstream and help calm the patient during the “cool down period”. In addition to calming the patient down, the patient will be more original in their meme-making; using memes other then the same old pepe the frog, or it is Wednesday my dude memes. I hope my contributions to ECT will be recognized.
There is no conspiracy. The data on ECT has been released on medical websites and in textbooks. I’ve read two books on ECT and they were full of acts. Some facts – 100,000 people a year get ECT; it is effective approximately 80% of the time. Also two of your comments make no sense and conflict – supposedly ECT is cheaper for insurance companies and yet hospitals and doctors make a lot of money off it. See the conflict? It makes no sense. Cost vary from hospital to hospital. My treatments run around $1,000 each and I have a minimum of 26 treatments a year for $26,000 while my meds cost approximately $24,000 a year. How does this save the insurance company money? Again, there is NO conspiracy.
The data is also in for hospital stays.. How many times do people with our brain disease go to the hospital a year? Many go numerous times Typical stay is at least a week. . Average cost for a hospital stay is over 2,000 dollars per day. Do the math.
I will make it very short.. Many years from now doctors will look at we did with ECT as we look at what doctors did back in the day. I am not sure if they call it barbaric or not. I am not saying it is right or wrong, effective or not. In my support group 3 individuals took it. 1 was fine after the first go at it, One changed drastically for the worse and had undergone 12 treatments over s short period of time and lost almost all memory for a long period of time and was losing weight and getting very sickly and the other committed suicide within a short period afterwards. Personally , as I told my doctor who said I should have it ( who also makes a major portion of his income doing ECT) is that I will do it after he does it. Enough said.
Thanks Natasha. I’m “a bit scared” of ECT. Meaning last time I was in hospital I took the mattress off the bed and barred the door with the base of the bed so they wouldn’t wheel me off for ECT. Granted I was having a mixed mood psychosis at the time so somewhat paranoid. But all of our paranoias have some basis in our usual fears. Anyway, the impartial information was appreciated.
Did you read the full text article about ECT during pregnancy and was there any information about potential harm to the fetus or miscarriage? I did not access the full text due to the paid subscription, but a quick google revealed plenty of info about complications arising from ECT during pregnancy, including contractions, fetal arrhythmia, miscarriage, and stillbirth. Perhaps “considered low risk” would be more accurate than “safe.”
Dear Natasha,
I liked to weigh in on this subject from the perspective of a support person and mental health advocate/activist of 50 plus years to my spouse and the fact early on Joyce has had multiple ECT treatment sessions over the years.
I am a proponent for any therapy option having the potential to safely and efficaciously yield a favorable response for severe depression, being FDA approved of which ECT has never been formally studied or approved while also exhibiting the least potential for serious side-effects.
I would also like to bring to your attention and that of your readers that there is also a third ECT treatment option. You’ve already addressed unilateral and bilateral and fitting between the two is bi-frontal ECT. To my knowledge and in order of least potential memory and/or cognitive side-effects is unilateral, bi-frontal and lastly bilateral ECT,
I think it incumbent upon the patient and his/her support person(s) as well as the attending physician to not easily dismiss the potential for serious memory and cognitive issues. They do exist and one should be as informed as reasonably as possible. After many years Dr. Harold Sackeim finally recognized the fact that these issues exist.
http://www.nature.com/npp/journal/v32/n1/full/1301180a.html
I would also like to bring to the attention of your readers the website and more particularly the message forum of Juli Lawrence (ect.org). This site contains commentary from patients who I opine think differently than Natasha and me:
http://www.zaprap.org/
I have strongly disagreed with folks like David W. Oaks, former MindFreedom International Executive Director, and Dr. Peter Breggin and Linda Andre who early on along with others had advocated for the banning of ECT although some have more recently modified their positions. I am not an alarmist but ECT in my opinion is a viable treatment option to consider if one accepts and understands the potential for memory and cognitive issues. Knowing that which I do, I would first consider the newer neuro-modulations therapies one of which was previously cited in the comment by Ms. Laura P. Schulman.
Most all psychotropic therapies come with potential side-effects, may or may not be covered by health insurance and may be costly out-of-pocket but no stone should be left unturned.
I encourage those seeking any therapy option to be reasonably informed, hopeful and understanding that there are no guarantees of a favorable response or advocacy without giving the therapy a try; “The Trial and Error Approach to Wellness”. Lastly, one should not make any medical decision while being coerced in any manner.
I wish you all good luck, wellness and all the good you’d wish for yourselves.
Sincerely,
Herb
http://www.vnstherapy-herb.blogspot.com
http://www.vnstherapy.wordpress.com
During one of my hospitalizations, a fellow patient underwent ETC. Unfortunately, the anesthesia team forgot to administer the anesthetic, but they did give him the paralytic, so he felt the whole thing–but since he was paralyzed, he couldn’t call out. The poor man, who was already very ill with depression, now had severe PTSD from that experience, and was much worse off than before. I went with rTMS and got the same benefit without the risk.
Thanks for the post, Natasha. I contacted you about a year ago asking about your experience with ECT. At the time, I was considering having unilateral treatments. I started treatments in June, 2015. I had 6 initial ECT treatments over a 2-week period, followed by monthly treatments. Being basically medication resistant, the ECT helped me very much. I had a calm wash over me. My irritability and impulsivity were almost completely gone. I had better sleeping patterns and felt like I could function. I did have some memory issues, no major chunks of time, but I forget names or don’t play Jeopardy as well as I used to. It’s like things get stuck on the tip of my tongue or I can’t spell a word. I refuse to do monthly treatments out of fear my memory will get worse (I’m also 50 yo and worry about a family history of dementia). I just call when things are getting out of control and make an appointment. You guys be the judge – does this post make sense? I had ECT yesterday – I went four months between treatments. It certainly works better than any medication has ever worked for me.
I have been having bilateral maintenance ECT for three years with various lengths of times between treatments. I have almost no memory loss from the treatments. I can even remember being told to breathe deeply and the stinging of the anesthesia. My fear is not in having ECT but having to stop ECT. my next treatment is tomorrow morning and I can hardly wait for it. It is safe, my doctor gives me pain melds with the treatment which lasts until evening after which I take Tylonol once. Sometimes my muscles are a little sore from the muscle relaxant for a day. ECT is humane, safe, and effective.
At the age of 22, back in ’97, I had several treatments for severe mania. It must have worked, but I was so far gone I had no idea what was happening. I believe my parents signed the consent forms. I’ve been hospitalized 4 times for severe mania, so I guess that’s not too bad of a track record. It’s definitely a constant battle and dance with the bi-polar brain.
Thanks for your article Natasha! I appreciate your work!
Denise
I completely agree with you on most of the points you’ve made, both of pros and cons. I too swore I’d never allow a doctor to perform ECT on me, until I ended up needing it. I became non responsive to meds and it became a last resort. I had twice weekly sessions for about 8 weeks. I had a mixed bag of results. On the plus side, I’m now stable on half the medication dosage I was on before ECT and I’ve been stable for almost 4 years. On the negative side, during ECT I had to be hospitalized twice for suicidal depression and once for a truly accidental overdose(I was accidentally taking double the daily dosage of my meds). The one point you’ve mentioned that I disagree with, in part, is about losing large chunks of time. I had ECT in June and July of 2011. I’ve lost the time period of May through October of that year. Other than a few tactile memories (such as a nauseous reaction to a particular brand of hand soap that we’ve determined the nurses used when they were working on me), everything we did in that block of time, including moving homes, a full remodel, movies, travels, all three hospitalizations, etc, is gone to me. I even lost the ability to read music, which I had been doing since primary school. With practice this came back, but everything else is still gone. My doc agrees that it’s extremely rare to lose such a full block, and we’ve determined that it is well and truly gone.
All that being said, I do recommend ECT as a treatment plan. I have a friend who is med free with regular maintenance treatments of ECT. We like to say we are good examples of the two extremes, and most people end up somewhere in between. :)
My husband and I have learned to adjust for the blank spots, and I’ve continued to maintain medication management, and as I said, I still believe in ECT as a viable treatment in spite of my difficulties, and I am most definitely an anomaly.
I have always understood (and your article appears to confirm this) that ECT is used only to treat severe clinical depression. Is this the only mood state it’s used for? For example, what about dysphoric mania? Anything else that you know of?
Hi Harry,
ECT is primarily used for severe depression (both bipolar and unipolar — same efficacy), catatonia and, rarely, severe mania. It can be used for psychosis but that is extremely unusual as we have effective medications for that.
Yes, it’s virtually never a frontline treatment (unless, perhaps the person can’t take medication) but some doctors argue it’s not used soon enough in the treatment cycle when other medications are failing (usually it takes years of depression for people to consider ECT).
– Natasha Tracy
today my psychiatrist dropped me from his program because the meds havent worked and I adamantly rejected ECS. Guess if Im not willing to be drugged and shocked then Im not worth helping.
Diagnosed with BPD, PTSD, Manic-depressive bipolar, rage disorder and panic/anxiety disorder.
Ive been put on a cocktail spanning 20 different medications and different levels or different mixes in 2 years. I was told that I was drug intolerant, he disagreed with that (I’ve been on and off different meds for 30 years), but chooses now to not help me. So now Im left with the thought that the doctors in my area (louisiana) are just not great doctors, and I will be moving.
Excellent post.
I was always a “nature girl” growing up and my Dad, who also had bipolar one like me, had ECT to no avail decades ago. However, ECT was absolutely lifesaving for me. I’ve had both unilateral after my father died (I had already been in deep bipolar depression before his death, and he was one of my best friends….) and bilateral after I relapsed from stopping my bipolar medications. (I’M NEVER GOING OFF MEDS AGAIN!) :)
I requested ECT both times and I had minimal side effects. I loved my treatment team and it was actually relaxing for me to receive my ECT! Of course I was worried about memory loss, etc. but it was not a problem for me.
I write about some of my ECT experience here as an International Bipolar Foundation Blogger:
http://www.ibpf.org/blog/are-you-shocked-i-got-shocked
As for memory loss, well….my memory was solid enough for me to write a 250=page-long, highly detailed memoir. Two months ago I landed a book deal with Post HIll Press for my book “Birth of a New Brain – Healing from Postpartum Bipolar Disorder” with a foreword by Dr. Walker Karraa which will be published in Fall, 2016.
If not for my lifesaving ECT, there would be no book and there would be no me! My daughters and husband and dog would have lost me as well.
Looking forward to your ECT book when the time comes; it’ll happen!
take care,
Dyane Leshin-Harwood