Yesterday I was at my psychiatrist’s and I wasn’t doing terribly well. It seems I’m a little stressed. Turns out being a well-known mental health writer is a smidgen more challenging than one might think.
And so one of the recommendations my doctor made was to do some mindfulness training in a local program.
Instantly I felt myself rile against the idea. Internally I was feeling very resistant against yet more therapy.
And I realized why – therapy feels like an insult. The idea that I need more therapy seems to suggest that I’m not handling my disease in the best way possible. This seems to suggest that I don’t know everything already. More therapy feels like I’m doing something wrong and have to be fixed. The idea of more therapy suggests that someone else knows something that I don’t. And boy am I tired of bipolar treatments that don’t work.
Therapy
I have had lots of therapy in my life. I have had many different kinds of therapy in my life. I have seen many different therapists in my life. I think I’m therapied-out.
That being said, I have always recognized the value of therapy and always recommend that people with a mental illness get therapy. Not because I’m insulting people with a mental illness, naturally, but because I think therapy can help pretty much everyone – mentally ill or not. So it’s not that I’m against therapy, believe me.
Resistance to Therapy
And my resistance to therapy, my feeling (illogically) that therapy is an insult, was a surprise to me. I’m all for methods that help manage bipolar disorder – and those without side effects – all the better.
But I think as I’m a perfectionist, spend hours researching mental illness, an expert and very experienced made me view the suggestion of therapy as insulting. How dare someone suggest that I don’t know everything?
I Know Everything about Bipolar
But, of course I don’t know everything about bipolar. It’s silly to think that I do. And while I have engaged in different types of therapy I have never had formal mindfulness training. And while I don’t find the idea of self-compassion very appealing (for me), who am I to say it couldn’t help? Who am I to make the judgement that this therapy won’t help without even trying it? That would just be silly of me.
Resistance to Therapy – Therapy Feels like an Insult
And so, I think this little experience gave me a bit of insight into why people show resistance to therapy. People refuse therapy for many reasons, but I think the idea that it’s an insult to their own psychology somehow, is one.
So, I remind myself today that I am far from perfect, I can always handle things better and I do not know everything – and getting help does not denote weakness, but strength. And refusing an offer of help, even if sceptical, is closed-minded, which is something I don’t consider myself to be.
I just found out I’m moving eight hours from my psy. doc. I full intend on seeing him just as much as I see him now.
I’ve been working with him over ten years to help keep me balanced as I can be. He’s been a driving unending source of medication for balance. I can hear what he says and trust in him.
So you think you’re all therapied- out seen loads of different psychiatrists done Loads of different types of therapies – it doesn’t seem to work for you – as you say but still advice people to go and see a therapist thats a mad advice.
I have had a really good therapist since 2007. I never feel insulted by her. She is great. When I was younger, I felt insulted by almost every therapist I tried to work with. I also had one male therapist who was voyeuristic. He asked me a lot of personal questions including questions about my sex life. When it dawned on me that he was enjoying hearing about my pain, misery, and sex life, I found a new therapist immediately. I have a friend who is a social worker and when I told her about that experience, she gave a name to it and that was healing. He was ‘voyeuristic’. I had an EAP therapist who didn’t help me at all. It seemed very clear to me that she was working more for the company that I worked for and was more interested in helping them than she was interested in helping me. I have also had therapists who did little more than listen and nod. No wonder I didn’t improve while in their care. It is so important to find a good therapist who interacts with you, challenges you, helps you get outside your comfort zone, and gives you assignments. Anyone can just listen and nod. Why pay for that?
I feel insulted not by having done some therapy but how people around me think about therapy. I’ve done the therapy I wanted to do. Every time I recommend a not mentally ill person to get some therapy because he/she is not handling well emotions or some sort of problems, I get answers like; “There’s nothing wrong with me!” or “I’m not crazy to go to therapy”! I feel insulted by society’s ignorance.
Trinity
I’d concur with you that therapy feels like an insult. In retrospect the entire experience felt nothing but infantilzing and disempowering for a number of reasons.
First, it’s all stagecraft, a performed relationship masquerading as intimacy. Yet its larger-than-life presentation can dwarf our real life alliances that are spontaneous and unfabricated. Worse yet is therapy’s asymmetry. While the therapist is performing all his “empathy” the true message is “I control the game, I control the knowledge, I control the interpretations.” The consumer is now a sick patient expected to comply. It’s easy for it to become a complete subsuming and submission. Therapists are not our parents in the short time they minister to us.
Add the fixation on the “patient’s” deficiencies and wounds as though she is more flawed than any other human. We all have fears and inadequacies, but it can be a recipe for stagnation to wallow in them. That’s not “knowing ourselves” for it’s completely unbalanced. And this learning the “source” of our difficulties is an unproven mythology perpetuated by the therapy industry. Feeling better is not equivalent to extracting oil from underground. There is no magic moment, no bird flying from our chest suddenly freeing us from early despair.
In short, therapy can render us more powerless because it fosters a structure of an externalized authority, an accountability to someone else who really doesn’t merit our idealization.
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Your example is of one who is a bad therapist. Not all therapists are controlling, and some can actually be quite professional, perceptive and caring. I think its a matter of knowing the difference. A good therapist doesn’t push an agenda, they refrain from judgement, they allow a relationship and trust to develop naturally, and they are always above board. Most importantly, they follow ethical practices.
I’ve disliked therapy whenever I’ve actively sought it for a classical bipolar reason–therapists just don’t think or talk quickly enough. Also: they talk about themselves as if this mattered. They’re so . . . irritating. Of course I realize these responses point out that I typically only seek therapy during a manic phase and/or that when I evaluate people or events, I use my manic thinking as my reality check. Just another one of those funny/sad bipolar things. Let’s hope I remember this phenomenon the next time therapy seems a pointless bore.
Therapists should not talk about themselves – it’s a warning sign of a compromised therapist. There ARE some good therapists out there though, that understand how to speak to people when they’re manic.
Therapy is shit. I don’t believe in it, for myself. I’ve been to several therapists and each time, he/she hits a wall and “doesn’t know how to treat me anymore”. Yeah, therapy is shit.
To Pamela, You don’t want therapy to work, and many times it doesn’t. Its like finding the perfect soul mate. That person doesn’t exist. There isn’t a perfect life either until you start participating. All the faults and wrongs anyone suffers is preparation for the next living experience. With a little change your words work. Shit is therapy.
I don’t agree that “shit is therapy” at all.
I could imagine some jerk using this phrase as a valid reason to be a jerk.
First, I appreciated the discussion around “the worst mental illness.” Thank you for such an unbiased presentation.
I worked with one therapist on and off for 25 years; he saved my life. He guided and helped me learn to survive during the first half of my life. (Survival was all of which I was capable at this point in my life.) I am forever grateful to him.
At 40, I realized that it was time to find a new therapist to help guide me through the second half of my life (this occurred right around the time that my bipolar brother committed suicide). Interestingly, she, too, has saved my life. I am hopeful that she can help me learn to live – to move beyond survival.
Personally, I think therapy is for everyone. In my opinion, if it’s not helpful, one doesn’t have the right therapist. Although, I can see how there might be periods in which one might not need therapy.
I would like to say that I was wrong for attacking on here. I love everybody here, and we all must love each other. I will say that I consumed a natural substance (not weed, acid, or mushrooms) that I did not know what it was but was slipped it. I condemn that person but I still love him. It was a fight to survive while on it, and I strongly condemn its use by anyone because of its danger to make somebody go insane or develop severe terror or panic disorders. I survived from it unscathed. It made me open to love again, it made me actually re-experience the love from my dad, mother, and sister. It also made me re-experience my mom’s suicide and I cried although it was not overwhelming. I was in control at this time, but my mind was staying on these thoughts to struggle to remain sane, and I believe these feelings of love and things and the will to survive are what kept me sane. I believe I almost succumbed to it, and would have gone insane if not for my partner who I was able to talk to when I panicked. You see after experiencing these things like love, and also feelings of belief in God and other people’s talking of the love in God, came some things in life where I was panicked. It’s important not to be panicked and never give up on your beliefs. Whether or not there is a God, it is the love we have for each other and all creatures that is essential. But I will say that there was a moment 3 years ago, where there were problems in the family, that led me then to develop panicked thoughts and to question things. If I had not developed these thoughts I believe I would have just had a smooth ride through this substance. The substance was natural, in water and smelled like chocolate but with a dangerous undertone. It’s very important that if you ever are under the influence that you be strong and do not allow questioning or conspiracy type ideas and to abandon crippling thoughts. You see, although I was not insane but only experiencing an annoying type of thought in my personality that made me feel uncomfortable, it all led to my dad and sister having me before a commitment proceeding. I knew I was not insane, just had a little problem that drugs but maybe therapy under voluntary care would assist. But the deception of the psychiatry caused me to momentarilly crumble while under the influence and I felt the strongest terror magnified beyond anything and then some that I ever experienced. I will not tell you what substance I took for fear that I am signing of on you taking it. I will however list my email address and if you guess the natural substance, I will reply with the number 42 at the top of my message. However, I will not respond to guesses, but you will have to tell me what problem if any or desribe why you want to take this substance, which is actually a Schedule III substance I believe. I ask, but I do not recommend you emailing me because I don’t want you to take it, that you describe what is bothering you and I will try to help you with it or you could ask somebody else that you trust for help, it is that important. But when I was panicking, the room became slightly distorted, and I worried that I would disintegrate and end up in the hospital and wouldn’t be able to support my partner. I went to talk to my partner not for help but to say it was stronger that I thought. While walking down the hall I was disturbed to see that in my panicked state the walls were vibrating back and forth very fast. I talked to my partner, told her that I loved her, that it is so important to love everybody and just talked about what was bothering me. The first thing I said is that nobody should take this substance. After talking to her, I calmed down and the walls stopped vibrating. However, the next couple of days, my mind was somehow open, and I felt love strongly. I also figured out how to get my brain back to normal after the time 3 years before when I felt part of my personality die and be replaced partially by an image of a family member within my eye. That completely went away after being able to explore things after recovering from the hallucinogen. I sincerely hope that if you ever are under the influence of a hallucinogen that you before make sure you are strong, that you have no panicked problems or problems in the past, and that you especially have somebody you trust to help you, as I believe everybody will need somebody, and if you don’t go outside, look at the stars and remember the dream. I believe people can love each other and that love and understanding can heal people of mental illness whether it be psychosis or depression or whatever problem, because nobody I believe is so far gone from help. I will say that among opening things, that the experience of sex was the greatest time in my life, beyond anything I ever experienced, but please do not seek out substances for that reason. I will say again that I love you all forever, and make sure you have fun in life. One other thing is that I experienced feelings that I thought disappeared like love and the wonder and joy of life was rekindled, but I strongly urge that you don’t use any substances for therapy, because it’s inherently dangerous. There are people who have gone insane on substances.
Hi Natasha
Everyone with expertise knows things they can’t or don’t apply in their own lives. Psychoanalysts are always in therapy too, so don’t sweat it.
Mental illness is about the struggle more than anything. And the struggle is always so personal. I hope you have people besides therapists supporting you, and a life that makes sense and has meaning for you beyond your keyboard and your topic. You are more than your illness and your nom-de-plume.
My pitch for getting through the struggle is just to answer a few questions. What helps you make the most of your talents? What helps you reduce the areas where you are vulnerable? What improves your capacity to handle stress? What can you do to do to reduce the risk of something going wrong?
And think beyond your illness. Recovery’s okay for what it is, but there is more to life. What’s your dream for the future?
You’ll have your own answers. Talk things over with someone. Do what you can, and keep going. Have your life.
Hi Paul,
Oh yes, it’s the “do as I say, not as I do,” phenomenon. We all do it.
I agree, it is, unfortunately about struggle. I’m rather used to it.
As for your questions, those sound like good things that everyone should answer for themselves. I don’t know that it will get anyone _through_ a struggle, but it can make sense of some of the confusion that is living.
But I actually don’t know about your “dreams for the future” bit. Really, I believe much more in living in the now, because living for tomorrow results in a lot of disappointment.
– Natasha Tracy
I love therapy. But then again, I plan to be therapist so that’s probably why :)
This is such an awesome post. I never thought about therapy as an insult before. I did think that people who went to therapy were generally weak, as they weren’t able to manage themselves, and this was reinforced in watching my mom fall apart on a daily basis, even with therapy multiple times a week. When her bipolar diagnosis came down, and she was properly medicated, things got better, and I found MYself in therapy! Since then, I have learned that it takes a strong person to go to therapy cause the work is hard, and anything but fun. I admire you for adding in the mindfulness work, that is the area where I have drawn the line – I’ll do therapy, but all that mindfulness stuff? Not there yet. There’s a quote somewhere out there that talks about how if our thinking (logical or not) got us into the space in the first place, we’re not going to be able to logically think our way out on our own. Seems kind of fitting here. Hope the mindfulness is helpful, and hoping you post about it if you feel so inclined!
Hi Purple Dreamer,
Yup, you’re right, it takes a strong person to go to therapy and do the work, so good on you for doing that.
It might take some time to get into a mindfulness group, but yes, I plan on posting about it when I do.
Unfortunately, it’s a bit of a tricky thing as my critics tend to use information like that, information seen as a weakness, against me. So it’s tough to talk about things where I’m overly vulnerable.
Nevertheless, it is my plan.
– Natasha Tracy
You’re the best bipolar blogger that I know of. Your heart is in the right places and you’re always able to write in a lucid manner. Coupled with the fact that you could be susceptible to clinical depression and yet be consistent in your postings is not an easy feat. Kudos to you!
Hi Bipolar Smith,
Thank-you, that is very kind. Taking the time to send that message certainly helps keep me going.
Kudos to you :)
– Natasha Tracy
Hi, I am new to this blog. Recently, a woman suggested me see a psychologist, and eventually a psychiatrist. I thought therapy was very strange, as you can talk about “anything”. It also came with a hefty price tag, 100$ per session. In the end, I thought it was a big waste of time. I saw a few psychiatrist, and eventually, was diagnosed with depression. He prescribed me effexor xr. She prescribed me seroquel. It seemed like a bunch of bollocks to me, and now I keep thinking back how stupid I was for seeking “mental health” help. The side effects of these drugs are numerous, and I rather stay drug free. I only went to see these professionals because I listened to this woman. Had I never listened to her, I would figured all my issues out. When she said, you should see a psychologist, it made me lose “confidence” in myself. In fact, it caused me 10x more stress had I never saw these professionals. I wish I never got myself into this stuff. I almost literally believed I had something like “depression”, when in reality, I was always fine.
Very glad to hear you are fine. It’s not necessary to see a professional if you are fine. Has anyone else suggested that you get mental health help, or was it just that one woman?
Just that woman. She was vouching for the mental health professionals. If I can redo my past, I would’ve avoided her. There was nothing wrong with me in the first place. But as I kept seeing more and more of those professionals and being diagnosed, I got sucked in. So from my experience, fix your own problems. No one can help you but yourself. If you want to take the medications, you are going to be dealing with another new set of problems. Also, they make you fat. Who wants that? Life revolves around money. Please be aware of that. What is there to be depressed about? You should be busy making a living rather than taking pills. I don’t know what “mental illness” really is, but I think it’s best for me to remove myself from this “reality”.
I’m sorry to say, but to the woman who suggested me to go see a psychologist and psychiatrist… I think she’s crazy. She was even encouraging me to take the pills. “They’re GREAT.” Yeah, right.
I literally fell into a depression. Not because I had depression, but because of those mental health professionals.
Again, think for yourself. Fix your problems. You have control. I may sound ignorant about the mental health field, but I am glad I never took those pills.
It sounds like you did the right thing there. There is a big difference between feeling down and having problems, and clinical depression that medication is for. Everybody feels down from time to time, and sometimes they feel really bad if their problems are bad. They say that they feel depressed, but they recover with a little support, as you did. You don’t sound sick, and you shouldn’t take medicine for a condition that you don’t have, it can be dangerous.
There is a real medical condition called depression. Depression is a brain disorder. People can have it on it’s own or they can suffer from bipolar disorder. This site is about bipolar disorder. You can’t get better from depression or bipolar disorder just by working out problems. You need a whole range of strategies including medicine.
If you think that you might suffer from depression or bipolar disorder, by all means see a mental health professional whom you trust and feel comfortable with.
Though perhaps there was problem with me. Have any of you heard of “overtraining”? Excessive exercise? Might this mimic the symptoms of depression? Burnout? I’m sure there are some athletes in the world who pushed themselves too hard and ended up burnt out. But I am curious as to how these people start behaving. They say that depression stems from a chemical imbalance in the brain. Perhaps that overtraining can cause such a chemical imbalance.
if i could i would but suicide costs money so if i had some well who knows what the out come,just looking to talk to someone at 3-30 in the morning,feeling like shit, diagnosed with depression and hate that the pills dont work so im told again and again to get off anti depressants and get on the next ones up,not bipolar wish i was,but when you dont have tommorrows feed in the house,bad news,dont like it but i will have to go down to my supermarket and steal another couple of days food,now i know what people think so i will say this,i want to kill myself sick of stealing to feed myself,now ive had money and still i wasnt happy,i know its all fucked up and shit but i cant live with the fact that i just stole that food and i even steal what has been discounted,and still i feel bad about it,cause there could be someone who only has so much to spend so they by discounted food,but ive just stolen it,i could make a liven stealing 6-8 hours a day,last time i did that i couldnt live with it and ended up on heroin,even on your scale for suicide im in between 9 and 10 and 10 is attempting suicide,a few years back i chopped down the trees in backyard so i had nothing to hang by,now i dont think about hanging just other ways,many gases,nail gun to head or chest or hopfully both,sorry for writing here but im new to this and dont know where to go and talk,and im in sydney australia,see another thing im in the best southern hemisphere city and i want to die,i know by the time i get a response i wont be here,fuck you fuckers ive lived with these thoughts since 12 and am now 39 and fuck me if im still here at forty,see most of you dumb cunts have something, i pay rent,no kids,no spouse,family elsewhere with money and now way will they depart with 2 cents so they can spend money burying me,fucked up family,cant get a job but every one says im a hard worker,[moderated]
Hi Derek,
I’m sorry I didn’t get back to you sooner and I certainly hope that you are OK. It sounds to me like you need a new form of help. You sound very angry, which is understandable given your situation, but you need to take proactive steps to move forward. I’m not an expert on the systems in Australia, but you can start by calling the Lifeline and see what they have to say. Believe me, these people want to help you and they will have more information on resources than I have. This isn’t the end for you and your life doesn’t have to be this way. Call them: https://natashatracy.com/get-mental-illness-help/
– Natasha Tracy
Okay, so we have negative feelings/thoughts toward a new therapy because we know better? Ha, I do that all the time. I’m not proud of it, but geez, I’ve been through seemingly so much of this crap that just the thought of thinking about finding greater and better treatment generates bipolar symptoms up my ying yang.
I have little knowledge of “mindfulness” training, whatever it is. But I’ve had more than enough of the thoughts, advice, dogma, training, and pseudo-therapy that gives those suffering little to grasp on, much less something to work off of and build from.
Sorry folks, the mental health practice still has a long way to go! M’kay.
This reminds me of how I felt when the organisation I worked for asked me to do a lower course in something I had specialised in. I complained, I sulked, I was outraged. My feelings hit a brick wall though, so I went to the course. I spent the course thinking that I could have written a better course. At least the morning tea was good! It took me six months to finish the assessment, which was quite easy in itself, but because I kept wanting to change the questions, I procrastinated.
We adults are extremely resistant to leaning new information (something they taught at the course). What I know, however, is that adults are very keen to learn new information if it will help them in their lives. We actively seek it out, and filter useful from not useful. Nobody can tell you what you are supposed to learn, or how you are supposed to learn it.
Natasha I think an in-depth knowledge of mindfulness meditation would be extremely useful for you both personally and professionally. I don’t have to be a psychiatrist to say that. But from your reaction it sounds like this local group is not the best vehicle for your learning.
To clarify, for me therapy is learning – learning skills to manage the illness.
Hi Sarah,
Well like I said in the above article, I realize why I resisted, and I think it’s not particularly logical and I’m trying to keep an open mind. Maybe it’ll be helpful, maybe it won’t, but like you, I believe that we do filter the useful information and even in courses that we could “write” (I’ve been in them too) there are still things to learn, review, question and so on. So I’m sure I will learn something. I’d pretty much have to.
But, honestly, I would bet good money that I will go, learn, and then find out all the right terms for doing what I’ve already been doing all along. Therapy is like that for me.
– Natasha Tracy
If they changed the word from THERAPY to something else, then we all might sign up……lots of businesses or corporations change their “branding” and I feel that maybe the word THERAPY needs a new “look” — polish it up, and look at it with a new edge. I believe everyone can benefit from INTROSPECTION, however that works for them.
Hi Betsy,
How about cognitive skills training? That’s pretty much what mindfulness is. But I think “introspection” sounds hard. Maybe we can just call it “wellness coaching.” That’s sort of what I do for people.
– Natasha Tracy
It’s wrong to assume that all therapy is helpful and good. Unfortunately people have good intentions and sometimes little education. I am resistant to therapy because not only have I been through different kinds but I’ve been exposed to therapists who have been ignorant, unprofessional and thoughtless of the results of their claims. Like the shelter where I was required to go to a hour of therapy 3 to 4 times a week and was told that men are all abusers and that women are all victims. This is while having my sons in Art Therapy on the floor below me which was the equivalent of finger painting and lego play without any guided help from the assistants.
I don’t believe that I know everything, in fact I hope there is more out there that I am missing. I have been burned so many times I am overly cautious about opening my mind for the mounds of garbage that seems to accumulate in the hallways of Psychology.
Hi Bipolar Bear,
Well, when I talk therapy I mean by trained professionals. People who are doctors, for example. Psychologists. Not just people who run a group. And, of course, not all therapists gel with all patients and some therapists have wacky belief systems too.
But, in my experience, after seeing _many_ therapists, all the ones who are qualified have benefits, but they haven’t all been for me. I’m sorry your experiences have been so different.
– Natasha Tracy
Natasha, I saw my psych dr. today, whom I love by the way, and we made a medication change. I am so confused about being able to distinguish what is a medication issue, and what may be just the triggers that seem to be making my moods shift. How are we supposed to tell a difference? My triggers hit me hard and fast and I can usually recognize what caused it. On my good days I am happy, productive, and at peace with my diagnosis. I don’t isolate myself, cry, or feel hopeless. But, when a trigger hits, I can within minutes be at the bottom of the hole again. How do I know if the triggers are just something I continue to try to limit, or eliminate if possible, and then, just continue to get through each episode that come in spite of my efforts? Or how do I know if the medications are not working to their capabiliy? I am frustrated with the whole process even after 12 years of experiementing and learning what I have to do to live in the best possible way I can with a mental illness, which is Bipolar ll. From reading about other people’s experiences, most people continue to have triggers that can cause downs, even when the medication is working. So I am back to the original question- How do we know the difference and what is what? Any insight would be extremely helpful. Thanks.
Hi Dina,
Sorry it took me a while to get back to you.
I understand your frustration. Medications are tremendously frustrating. Side effects are tremendously frustrating. And what you’re describing is very frustrating.
What I think you need to keep in mind is what happened when you started or increased the medication. Because those things are side effects. It’s easy to distinguish those things and side effects rarely pop up out of no where. If you didn’t experience it when you first started a medication, it’s unlikely to suddenly occur.
If you can identify what is causing a mood shift then it sounds like you have a pretty good handle on those.
And in between those two things? Well, that’s uncertainty.
And as to your medications working to capacity? Well, that’s uncertain too. Two things. If you’re not happy with your medication you can work with your doctor to increase the dose and maximize the drug’s effects. At some point you will find that the side effects are too much and they are not worth any gains that you may make. It’s at that point that the medication has reached its maximum effectiveness. But only you know if it’s worth searching for that point. Only you know if you’re satisfied now. Only you know if you want to go through that. (Because as you know, it can really suck.)
And in the end we all need to decide what is “good enough.” It’s never going to be perfect – so can you live with what you’re experiencing today? Do you really want to go through more rounds of medication trials for any possible gains when things could also possibly get worse? Only you know the answer to those questions.
And then, of course, there’s taking into account your doctor’s recommendations, but really, your desires and limits are going to guide those too.
Does that help?
– Natasha Tracy
I’m resistant to the idea that mindfulness training is therapy at all! But I do understand that therapy can feel like an insult, and I agree that it’s an important reason to refuse it. A valid reason, too.
I think it’s part of a therapist’s job to explain their form of therapy in such a way that potential clients are not insulted. It’s not the client’s job to turn off their intelligence, knowledge and judgement so as to suspend all disbelief.
Hi CBTish,
Well, fair enough, some people might not put mindfullness training into the therapy bucket, but I say, tomAto, tomato.
I actually didn’t say that feeling insulted by the notion is a good reason to refuse therapy – in fact, I said the opposite. I said that my line of thinking was illogical and needed to be challenged, which is why I’m _not_ refusing the mindfullness training. Nothing may come of it, but I think people owe it to themselves to try something new. If we change nothing than nothing changes.
Oh, and I agree that it’s a therapist’s job to explain therapy in a helpful and healthy way. But sometime you have to turn off your disbelief in order to give things a try. Sometimes we can’t believe but that doesn’t mean it won’t work if we try.
– Natasha Tracy