People Who Attempt Suicide Don’t Want To Die
There are frequent reports that of the people who survive suicide attempts, they realized sometime after the pills, or the gun, or the jump, they didn’t want to die. This is obvious. No one wants to die. People who attempt suicide don’t want to die. They want to be out of pain.
People Who Attempt Suicide Don’t Want to Die, They Want to Be Free of Pain
It is obvious that every human wants to live. No matter what their personal circumstance each human claws against death until they either don’t see it coming, or they feel there is no alternative for them.
Many people actually have no problem with that – we call it doctor-assisted suicide. The reason it’s “OK” to kill yourself near the end of your life is because it is medically certain you will be in agony for the short remainder of your existence. In this instance doctors just turn their head while a little extra morphine is administered. Happens all the time.
Bipolar (Mental Illness in General) Isn’t Considered a Terminal Illness
No one, however, recognizes mental illness as a terminal illness. It can never be determined to a medical certainty that the rest of your life will be lived in agony. Even though it might be. Tomorrow might be different. Magic might happen. A unicorn might walk through my front door. But probably not. Tomorrow is probably going to be exactly like today. Only it’ll be Saturday. Yay.
Depression Deprives People of Pleasure, Causes Pain
The problem with a disorder like depression is that pleasure is simply absent. Pleasure in all ways is gone. Desire is gone. Depressed people don’t like anything. Depressed people don’t want to do anything. And even if something extraordinary were to happen, like a unicorn in your living room, it wouldn’t matter. Because the ability to feel pleasure is gone.[push]I don’t want to die. I just really don’t want to live. Like this.[/push]
And if anhedonia weren’t enough to make life absolutely pointless, there’s the adding of pain on top of it. Pain on top of pain on top of the unbearable, unarguable knowledge of more pain. And still, the fact is, I don’t want to die. I just really don’t want to live. Like this.
Hopelessness Makes People Want to Die
And on Tuesday, the doctor I saw basically told me to give up. She told me medications weren’t going to help and I should just work on maintaining a chronic condition. I would not be her patient. There was no point. It was hopeless. Treatment was hopeless. I should go to therapy. (Like more than the 15 years I’ve already done.)[pull]A doctor telling you to give up is the definition of hopelessness.[/pull]
I would suggest a woman like that wants me to die. She practically rolled out a red carpet for me and shoved me into death’s spotlight.
And see, it’s hard to get thrown out by a doctor. It’s hard to have the psychiatrist, one person who’s supposed to believe in you, give up. In this case, a person who didn’t even know me. A hard and heartless stranger decided it was over. And it’s convincing when someone with a medical degree says it. They seem right. Of course I’m done. Of course it’s hopeless.
I Feel Hopeless. I See No Reason Not to Die. It’s Kind of an Issue.
So, what I really feel right now is hopelessness. I feel like there is no point in anything, at all. I’ve always wanted to slice my wrist with a piece of broken glass. So I did. I didn’t see any reason not to. I was hoping I would be found in a puddle of blood on my kitchen floor. So I wrote in my blood, “It’s not your fault.” It’s not. It’s hopeless. That’s no one’s fault.
And I got really drunk. I never get drunk. It’s bad for crazy people. But if life’s hopeless, then it doesn’t matter.
And then last night I got really high. Like really, seriously, fucked up. I wondered what it would be like. And now I know. Normally I would never do that, but without any desire to live, without any hope, there’s no real point in being reasonable.
I wonder if it will go like this. I’ll waggle from idiotic thing to dumb, dangerous thing until something kills me. I think I might. I don’t really see any reason for it not to.

Joe - April 3, 2012 ←
I am a 22 year old male, been mentally ill for most if not all of my life. Problems with delusions, paranoia, stress, anxiety, and mood swings. But that’s not the worst part, God do I wish it was! The worst part is, that I’ve developed a neurodegenerative condition. Started back in late 2008, my vision, ears are all messed up and I am cognitively impaired. I think I’ve always been impaired in the intelligence department, but it has gotten worse over the years. Basically it is or is something similar to MS. I control it by eating healthy, staying away from gluten and dairy, but I have come to a realization that it is probably to late to fully recovery. My best bet is stabilization, so I have fallen into depression. I see no point in living anymore, I feel numb. The only reason why I am living is for my family, there is no other reason. I am not trying to pity myself, there are so many others out there in the world that have it harder then me, its just hard. I WANT to live, I daydream about it everyday, how I want to be healthy, to have a sweet girlfriend, to be smart, and the list goes on, who doesn’t want to be healthy and successful? Either way soon or later it will end.
Natasha Tracy - April 3, 2012 ←
Hi Joe,
I’m sorry hear you’re in just a spot. I’m sure it is very difficult for you. One thing I would like to tell you is that while you claim to be “not smart” you sound plenty smart in your comment here. Is it possible you are being too hard on yourself? Feeling smart is often a matter of confidence and not of a specific IQ.
I can understand that being diagnosed with a neurodegenerative illness would be very difficult but perhaps it is reason to live the best you can as soon as you can and take advantage of what you have today. Maybe you will have less tomorrow, maybe not, but today you have something. Maybe you can celebrate that something.
And as for your depression, I recommend getting it treated. You don’t have to feel depressed. Many people with a serious illness get depressed, but they feel better with medication and therapy. I know that can sound very difficult with your mental health history, but it is possible.
I hope that helps. Hang on. You’re not alone.
- Natasha Tracy
no one important - March 25, 2012 ←
It’s sad that I’m almost 14 and I’m ready to let go. It’s selfish but I’ve been selfless for most of my life. I’ll probably be thought of as a drama queen if I posted something like this on fb which I recently deleted. My friend or ex friend just added up to the pile of pain I had growing again. I got over being sad for about 3 months then it came back. We got into a couple arguments lately and he tells me that we should stop talking and that he’ll still be my friend but we won’t just talk and to hit him up when I’m ready. I knew a day like that would come but I wouldn’t think it would be 2 months after I met him. He says I need a break and he was the one saying he wants to figure me out. If he really did, I think he would have stuck it out or something. I’ll probably continue to cry and think about him and tell myself I don’t need him or anyone else. I just need someone to listen to my story.
Natasha Tracy - March 25, 2012 ←
Hello friend (you _are_ important),
Believe it or not, understand how you feel. I was your age when I first started contemplating suicide. I was doing awful things to myself and I was in too much pain every day. I never thought I’d live to see 20.
But I did, and you can too. It’s _not_ time to give up.
One thing I can tell you for sure is that things get better. At 13 your life is not your own and there are too many factors beyond your control acting on it. But it gets better. Once you are able to define your own future, put your own food in the fridge, make new friends, go to a school you choose or get a job you choose things _will_ be different. You just need to hang on until you can get there. And you can do that.
I would recommend getting quality counselling as soon as possible. Honestly, people _can_ help you through this time. People your own age are wonderful and important, but others may be able to help more.
Please see here for a list of helplines and mental illness resources: http://natashatracy.com/get-mental-illness-help/
You can do this. You can keep going. Your life will be yours and it will get better.
- Natasha Tracy
Martha - March 8, 2012 ←
I can’t believe a doctor told you that! Please don’t hurt yourseLf on the word of some heartless bitch. Find a new doctor as quickly as you can and hang on to the knowledge that you help lots of people including me. I’ll be thinking of you during this rough time
Natasha Tracy - March 8, 2012 ←
Hi Martha,
Luckily for me I wrote this almost two years ago and I did make it through. It’s really tough when a healthcare provider steals your hope, or tramples it, as the case may be, but I didn’t let the words of this heartless bitch kill me.
Thank-you for your thoughts. I know many people going through this right now appreciate them.
- Natasha Tracy
Katie - March 8, 2012 ←
Natasha,
I am so grateful you posted this on facebook today. It’s incredibly relevant to my current situation fiddling with meds that only seem to make it worse. It is about the pain and not wanting do die, but for me it’s the fear of being impulsive. I hear that in this post too. But thanks for giving me some insight and hope even in what feels like hopelessness.
K.
Natasha Tracy - March 8, 2012 ←
Hi Katie,
I used to not fear being impulsive as I’m the kind of person that plans everything out. Then one day I was chopping an apple and stabbed myself in the arm completely without thinking. Now I realize that I _can_ be impulsive just like many other people. (That was a very bad idea, FYI.)
All I can say is that I have made a pact with myself not to commit a final act without greater thought. You know, you’re in no position to make a good decision when you’re in agony, and it’s when you’re in agony that this decision is likely to come up. It’s a catch-22, really.
One thing I can say is it might help to make a pact with another person – someone close to you. Promise to reach out to at least one other person before going through with anything. They might not change your mind, but then, I find other people can be a helpful reality check.
There are things here to live for. Others can remind you of that even when you’ve forgotten.
- Natasha Tracy
lostinoz - January 19, 2012 ←
I don’t think I have ever seen it written out in words as your thoughts and have so much meaning..thank you
I understand I want the pain to end, the suffering and sadness. When I look at it death does seem to be the answer. Deep down do I want to die….no…I have loved through the suicides of my father, his brother and a first cousin. So I know what the left behind part feels like and it sucks. I have 3 sons my mom and 2 grandkids…I don’t want them to suffer…however I sure would like mine to end….I hope you are doing well N, as well as the others here….maybe a unicorn will show up and change my life…..ahhhh always the dreamer I am…
Natasha Tracy - January 20, 2012 ←
Hi Lostinoz,
You’re an example of exactly what I’m talking about, you don’t want suicide, just an end to pain, but you’re thinking enough to know that suicide isn’t much of an answer as it tends to just spread the pain around.
I don’t know about unicorns, but I know I’m not suicidal. I know that the meds combination I’m on right now is decent. And I know that’s something.
Don’t give up. There might just be a unicorn, or at least some sort of horse, in your future.
- Natasha Tracy
Moody Chic - May 19, 2010 ←
Hi N,You don'y know me, but I just started bloggin's about my bipolar, though I have been bipolar for quite sometime ( I was in denial). Anyway I feel your pain, I haven't had a med. doc tell me it's hopeless, but that's how I feel. That doctor stole that little bit of fight and hope you had left in you. Like the others said, I'm going to go into the cliche lines on how life is great, overcome the challenge blah blah. If you truly want to die, at least get all you can out of this life. Make your bucket list, do all the crazy shit you've always been scared to do.You have the shell of a body, so live it up. Once you kill the shell, your consciousness moves on to another realm. Whether that real is hell, purgatory or another life. Live this up. While living exercise, eat holistically, mediate, do some yoga ( if you are not already doing these things), so you can control the episodes just long enough to cross the next item of your life.This is all just offering and I wish you well with your choices.
Natasha Tracy - March 8, 2012 ←
Hi Moody Chic,
Thanks for your wishes. Luckily this was written almost two years ago now so obviously I got through the awful times. Unfortunately when people are sick they are rarely prepared to cross things off their bucket list but sometimes we can focus on the next day or the next pint of ice cream. OK, that last one is a secret between me and Ben and Jerry.
- Natasha Tracy
Natasha Tracy - May 8, 2010 ←
I am here. I survived last night. I think it will happen again.
Graham - March 8, 2012 ←
Yep. That’s the bitch with BP. We have it until we push up the daisies. And while we know every low will eventually pass, if we can bare waiting that long, we know the bastard will return eventually. It’s not like that for everyone but it is for some of us. And for those of us with the Ultradian kind, those switches, even when the highs and lows are not too extreme, they are soooo wearing. Indeed, those of us who are also with Dysthymic Disorder, we have the Chinese water torture of a drip drip drip depression all the time anyway.
Of course, you do realise that some people here are depending on you to survive: If you go down, those who find critical support in your blog will tumble into the abyss after you. No pressure! :¬)
But who props up you when you need support? Anyone? This is not an open invitation for everyone, but you know my email. If you want to let off steam, email and I’ll give you my Skype number so you can talk it out, if you need to.
Natasha Tracy - March 8, 2012 ←
Hi Graham,
That’s something I have trouble with too. I try to focus on the idea that lows will pass but I’m steeped in the knowledge that they will always come back too. I’m a primarily depressed bipolar, so for me, it’s the biggest issue.
Oh yes, no pressure on me :) I have actually thought about what it would be like for me to go “missing” from my readers. I have no desire to find out what would happen then.
I have trouble finding people to prop me up, I admit it. After my best friend deserted me a few years ago I have had a hard time really trusting anyone. Thank-you for the invitation. Your openness is welcome although I don’t think I’ll likely take you up on it. It’s a gift nonetheless.
- Natasha Tracy
susan - May 8, 2010 ←
I don't know what to say , I am in the same place you are. I like what Anon said. I can give you psychobabble about Durkheim and 5 types of suicide and bullshit and what not. And how your cats will not be happy walking around your corpse and they will miss their human mother. And how we will miss you and I will miss my friend. And I will tell you unless you have a real good friend who will take those babies, they will wind up being put down too. My meds stopped working I understand. I gotta try brand new ones again, and probably a hospital and I am ready to check out or say lets make a pact to do it together after our fur babies are taken care of. But lets make a pact instead to try to get through and get our novels published so our fur babies and shred them? Lets give it another year? Does that sound good? I'm drowning too, but I am offering you my life preserver. We can share it and lets not drown. OK?
OnDandelionWings - May 8, 2010 ←
I know the place you are in as well as you do yourself. And I know there is nothing I can say to truly make you feel any better, it's all supid cliches and things you've already told yourself a thousand times. When I feel like you do now, I make lists. Lists of music I like. Lists of things which make me feel better. Lists of people I wouldn't mind terribily talking to me right now, lists of books I find interesting. And above all, I listen to Stephen Fry read me Harry Potter. Because Stephen is Bipolar, and if Stephen can get me to sleep, with the understanding I've convinced myself we have, then it will all be okay in the end. I don't know you, but make the lists and find your Steven Fry, and release your pain, I won't begrudge you that, I once broke my own leg to do the same, but I understand your pain, love your blog, and feel we live very similar lives. Find a new doctor, there is something at the end of the tunnel and we both know it, even if we can't see it right now. Most of the love in the world, and then some, and a little piece of hope, Anna
Anonymous - May 7, 2010 ←
You are not going to die you are not going to commit suicide because the grandson of your second child is going to be very valuable in curing and undertstanding mental illness. I need you to live in order to cease wanting to kill myself