(Prereading: What is EMPowerplus by Truehope and Why am I Taking EMPowerplus?)
Update June 28, 2023: I have now reviewed the research Truehope holds up to support the use of its products in depression. You can find the review here. Please, please read it if you’re considering its usage.
I’ve ordered EMPowerplus by Truehope now, and so, as a buyer, I know a few things that you can’t find out on their public site.
The Experience of Buying EMPowerplus by Truehope
The experience of buying EMPowerplus is exactly what you would think it would be – you go online and you buy it. There is one difference though, and that difference is that someone calls you to follow-up.
The morning after I ordered the product, the Truehope follow-up person called and started asking me personal questions and confirming information I had already given them. Then she asked my diagnosis. I hesitated as I don’t really think it’s any of her business, but then said, “bipolar.” Then she asked me what medications I was on. I told her I was on several and I didn’t want to enumerate them. She said something along the lines of, “our support staff can’t help you if they don’t have a full picture.” I asked her what her qualifications were to be asking such questions and she said that she simply, “set up the file.” Then I asked her what qualifications those support staff have. She said, “they’re educated on the product.”
In other words, the follow-up person has zero qualifications and the support people who will be counselling you have zero qualifications also. (This is true, by the way, it’s just a call center.) And she wants me to hand over my personal, medical information to these people. I don’t think so.
Dangerous Drug Interactions of EMPowerplus
And keep in mind, Truehope wants you to call their support staff, “if you are on psychotropic medications to help you avoid dangerous drug interactions.”
Apparently these drug interactions are so “dangerous” as to require a disclaimer on the order page but not dangerous enough to be specified on the site nor addressed by people with actual, medical qualifications.
Does anyone else think that’s nutty? If they’re so dangerous, why wouldn’t they be listed on the site so you could determine whether or not to purchase the product? And why, exactly, would anyone allow a supplement to be sold that caused “dangerous drug interactions” without labelling?
(I’ll tell you why. I suspect it’s because they want to build a little file up about you so that they can sell you other products. A follow-up-follow-up person actually called too, twice, but I didn’t take the calls.)
(Health Canada, by the way, appears to hate these guys and has previously sued them and advised people with serious mental illness not to take EMPowerplus. They also have a record from 2007 that states, “Reports of adverse reactions in patients with serious mental health conditions suspected in association with use of prescription medications and EMPowerPlus — consumer information.” I would bet serious money on the fact that these “adverse reactions” were from people who stopped taking their meds.)
And note that when asked about side effects, the EMPowerplus literature says, “EMPowerplus produces no side effects, other than minor, temporary gastrointestinal upset in a few people.” So, no side effects but dangerous drug interactions for EMPowerplus?
Initial Truehope EMPowerplus Email and Documents
Alongside all of this I was sent a series of informational documents from Truehope about EMPowerplus. The documents were:
- A Truehope Participant Guide
- A Truehope Support Guide (for the person who will be supporting whomever is taking the EMPowerplus)
- A Candida Reference Sheet
- A Candida Self-Test
- A Candida Protocol
All that candida stuff is there so that if you supposedly have a “problem with candida” (yeast), you can address it by buying more of their products. And you have to do this because if you have a candida problem you won’t be able to absorb the nutrients from the EMPowerplus.
And oh, you don’t have to have any symptoms to have a candida problem. You just have to have done things like: taken broad-spectrum or acne antibiotics, crave sugar or carbs, feel fatigued or lethargic, been pregnant or about a million other things according to their self-test.
It should be noted that the Truehope Support Guide is actually longer than the Participant Guide. This seems purposefully manipulative – get the family member on-side so that if the person with the mental illness wants to stop taking the supplement, the loved one convinces them not to. It’s perfect marketing. As Truehope says, “Your job will be to keep the new Truehope participant stay on track . . .”
One final note before I go into these documents in detail, on page three of the Support Guide it says that, “A multi-center, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial using EMPowerplus for adults with bipolar disorder is now under way in Canada and the United States.” This is actually a lie. That trial was terminated unexpectedly in 2009.*
* A Truehope representative said they will look into this upon reading this article.
How funny, I actually have all this stuff on my table in front of me for the first time in a year. My psychiatrist moved away 15 months ago and I forgot all about this stuff after leaving a few comments on here in Oct 2021. No BS I have it in front of me when a email arrived saying someone posted here. I had just finished adding to my calendar that im starting tomorrow as I have 2 bottles of the EMPower Plus , a container of Inositol Powder (Tracy Marks MD mentioned it on youtube along with TrueHope) and Phosphatidyl Serine. Im going to take all of them till my 2 months worth is gone just to use them up and see if I see any different. Taking all of them at 66% of the max dosage is $150 a month Canadian which is a heck of a pile of coinage if you ask me. I just read a study in the Journal of the American Medical Assoc (Psych Part) about Folic Acid and suicide and self harm reduction long term studies. I self harm and have ideation often. 1mg is supposed to have a strong effect at reducing both. The best thing is for 6 dollars its about a 4 month supply so Im trying it. If its published in JAMA is peer reviewed long term. You cant go wrong for $1.50 a month. I will see if it helps after a decade.
I recently began taking EMPowerplus vitiamin/mineral supplement. Last year, I had a long episode of muscle rigidity and spasms that turned out to be serotonin toxicity (not the official serotonin syndrome) from lurasidone. I knew that I couldn’t take SSRIs–they caused neck and shoulder muscle rigidity within half an hour of taking a dose of an SSRI. Lurasidone is not the same class of drugs, so it took a while before my doctor and I realized that part of what lurasidone does is to raise serotonin levels.
It didn’t occur to me–but it should have–that a vitamin/mineral supplement could cause serotonin toxicity. At first, I suspected my melatonin supplement. When I began having the serotonin toxicity symptoms (neck/shoulder/upper back rigidity and back muscle spasms), I first looked at the melatonin. Turns out 26% of those analyzed had serotonin in them. So maybe that was the cause. The serotonin amount was very tiny, however. To be thorough, I looked at EMPowerplus, also. The site touts that their product increases endorphins. It should have been a red flag for me, but it didn’t sink in that this could be a problem.
If you have toxic reactions to serotonergic drugs, it may be wise to stay away from this product, or do more checking. Also, an aside, be careful with melatonin supplements.
And who funds you? I have no doubt you have a financial interest because who would have something against vitamins, minerals enzymes and amino acids. Someone with a financial interest is who. Follow the money to weed out the dogs
Hi Ben,
Many people pay me for my services, it’s true. No one paid me for the thoughts written about here, or the post, however. This post is an honest telling about my experiences and the facts at the time. You are welcome to discount it if you wish, but that doesn’t change what it is.
– Natasha Tracy
My psychiatrist with over 30 years experience (who is paid by the local health authority and not private practice) was the one who asked me to try EMPower. He sees very positive results in many of his patients. Sure he also prescribes psych meds but he likes to use naturopathic when possible esp for people like me who a treatment resistant like so many are to psych meds. I just bought a book by a Psychologist in Canada named Dr Bonnie Kaplan Phd who mentions TrueHope and another US based company (but is not affiliated with them) and she was bullied by Health Canada and ordered 20 years ago to cease research on this type of research on psych patients until a large organization with legit clout backed her and then she was able to continue. In her book “The Better Brain” she gets positive approval from psychiatrists like Charles Popper MD from McLean Hospital an Harvard School of Med. Anyone who knows about research esp into things like BPD will be very familiar with the research that has come out of McLean Hospital over the past 50 years. I have read in peer reviewed psychiatric journals about studies from EMPower with bi-polar patients going off meds or significantly reducing thanks to it. Something like 75% in these studies and Peer reviewed Psychiatric Journals do not publish nonsense. Only legitimate research. This is not company stuff, its freely available if you look online in the psych journals and websites like Pub Med so people on here should think first before they shoot off their big ignorant mouths and actually look at the valid (non-company run) peer reviewed research that has been conducted and that is being conducted. This area of research is in its infancy and is slowly gaining credibility in the psychiatric world because of all the misinformation big pharma has spread to try and stop any dent in profits for them. The same thing they did with medical marijuana and goodness knows how many other things they tried to squash with literature and courses they provided for free to General Practitioners and Psychiatrists.
Hi Rob,
Just because a person is a doctor doesn’t mean that doctor is to be believed in everything. There are crackpots. I know the doctors you are talking about. I know the crowd they are with. They are not people I necessarily listen to.
In regards to studies, you _say_ they exist and even throw out a number but don’t actually link to anything. If you choose to link to an actual study, I can comment on it.
Does nutrition influence the brain and mental illness? Well, yes, of course, it does. Does that mean that this particular product works? No, it does not.
– Natasha Tracy
Oh I did not mean to imply the specific product works for everyone I just meant to imply even if it helps somewhat for some with MH problems thats a bonus. I have a full spectrum (personality, mood, stress and anxiety diagnosis) and throw in alcohol use disorder for good measure. so for people like me good luck finding anything to work which other than mood stabilizers my last psychiatrist did psychotherapy like my psychologist does. DBT skills etc. SSRI/SNRI drugs do nothing for me. Anti Psychotics the same. Unless you want to make me even more angry than I already am . However I do take 2g daily of Tryptophan as that does help the depression as I tried right up to 8g daily an found 2g to be the sweet spot and anything higher did nothing more. If those psychiatrists in those double blind placebo trials get results for some with bi polar and other disorders like adhd then all the power to the company. When you suffer daily who gives a shit what works as long as you find something that helps be is psych meds or naturopathic. I have a new psych consult in 2 days as a new Dr is coming on board so I expect I will be on another drug soon :( Oh well Cheers
Just because someone is a writer, speaker, advocate and consultant and has lived with bipolar for 23 years doesnt mean they are to be believed. Geez you could say that about anything or anyone. A small company like Truehope is not the problem, it’s the pharmaceutical giants that control everything and the puppets they fund.
Hi Ben,
Actually, when a company, however small, allegedly tells people to get off their medication and uses untrained personnel to do so, it _is_ the problem. One person dying because of those actions is too many.
This person killed his father and attempted to kill his mother on TrueHope’s EMPowerplus: https://bc.ctvnews.ca/schizophrenic-killer-was-taking-mental-health-vitamins-court-hears-1.866300
That is but one example.
– Natasha Tracy
And 1000s of people don’t die every year from legal drugs like chemo and radiation that are dished out by qualified oncologists, people don’t die every year from adverse reactions to drugs or incorrect prescriptions from qualified doctors do they. You give me one example of a child who died because their family refused vaccine and they are to be crucified, don’t u think they will suffer enough with the loss of their child and if they should have done it differently. Pharmaceuticals don’t give a shit who they kill and if they do get caught out they pay a few million and no one goes to jail. Tell me why you defend the corporate giants? Is it really so hard for you to believe they could be as I suggest?
Hi Ben,
There is a big difference between pharmaceutical companies and people treating a child with inert substances or a company making spurious claims — there is actually science behind them. We know the risks. They are considered reasonable by medicine given the conditions they treat. We also know that, empirically, they work to successfully treat the conditions.
Now, are pharmaceutical companies perfect? No, they sure aren’t. They have done some horrendous things. But their products save lives every day and I would be dead without them. It’s not about defending them, it’s about defending _science_.
– Natasha Tracy
Just because someone is a writer, speaker, advocate and consultant doesn’t mean the person is to be believed in everything. Geez you could say that about anything or anyone. Small companies like Truehope are not the problem it’s giant pharmaceutical companies that control everything and the puppets they fund. Can’t believe the naivety of people, there is no excuse for ignorance these days with the wealth of knowledge at our fingertips. You think there is no financial interest for health Canada and the government’s pressured by pharmaceuticals to shut down places like Truehope. Can’t have people treating themselves successfully with natural products that make no money now can we. Will eat into their billions.
This stuff saved my sons life, you have no right to make out this is dangerous stuff
They are amazing, it has worked for many
Quit scaring people
Hi Julie,
I’m glad you had a good experience. It is definitely not like that for everyone.
— Natasha Tracy
You accuse Truehope of having no qualifications. Similarly you don’t either. Yet here you are touting your “expertise.” Also, you thought it none of their business what your diagnosis is yet here you are advertising you are Bipolar for potentially thousands or more strangers on the internet. I doubt your authenticity Natasha. You accuse others of being crackpots yet miraculously you are “believable.” You have an agenda and I’m not exactly sure what that is, but it is certainly not giving a fair unbiased picture of a product that potentially has helped many. You share no evidence, no studies, no sources. Health issues are complicated and you don’t have the knowledge, or unbiased opinion to give an accurate, fair opinion on this product. I think you have done a disservice by sharing this article.
Hi Lora,
You are correct, I am only a bipolar expert, not a doctor. I encourage everyone to check everything I say with their doctor and with the sources I reference.
In the case of Truehope, I have done two rather extensive pieces that critique their version of efficacy evidence.
This one talks about what they present as evidence for the use of their supplement in depression: https://bit.ly/empowerplus_review
This one talks about what they present as evidence for the use of their supplement in bipolar disorder: https://bit.ly/empowerplus_bipolar
This one outlines the harm caused to one particular person: https://bit.ly/truehope-harm
You are absolutely welcome not to believe me or what I say. You may want to look at the above, however, as their version of evidence leaves much to be desired. I choose and recommend treatments that are evidence-based.
— Natasha Tracy
I have been taking the EmPower Plus product since I discovered that I was pregnant back in 2004.
My psychiatrist offered no safe medical suggestions for treating Bipolar Disorder during a pregnancy. My psychiatrist said that the TrueHope vitamins would only give me expensive pee. That said, when you are pregnant, you need to take a lot of vitamins. Since the Depakote I was taking could kill a fetus, I stopped taking my medications immediately when I discovered my pregnancy and started taking the TrueHope vitamins instead. I have never needed to go back on them.
Actress Brooke Shields wrote a book about how 1/4 or 5 women experience post partum depression (regardless of no preexisting conditions). I had a preexisting condition so that should have increased my likelihood of problems. That said, despite having two babies and breastfeeding them both, I had no post partum psychosis or depression.
It has been almost 20 years since I have taken any medication whatsoever. I once asked TrueHope what the success ratio looks like and they said that it works for about 80%. Perhaps the author of this article is part of the unlucky 20% but I shall always be grateful for my TrueHope vitamins.
Hello Doug,
I am interested in speaking with you abut your experience with Truehope. I have a long history with alternative medicine.
I am happy to hear you had a good experience with Truehope. Katherine Falk is a a psychiatrist in NYC who recommended
Truehope/Empower Plus to me. I saw her twice. i stopped seeing her b/c her fee was $400 a visit plus the drive to the city was daunting. I learned about True Hope back in 2004 but did not follow through with them at the time. I am finally going ahead with this today. I am calling to set up a program.
If you have the time I would appreciate a response.
Thank you.
This article seems a little extreme and bias.
I agree this article is biased and on the emotional side. I personally know people with mental illness that have faired very poorly on traditional medicine and I know a few people with severe depression who have made use of True Hope under the supervision of a doctor and benefited greatly. I’m so happy for them. It had me encouraged to try it myself. I have found it helpful. I purchase the empower plus when it goes on sale. I’ve never been pressured to purchase their other products. The person who wrote this article obviously didn’t get beyond making an initial order. That hardly
Makes her someone experienced enough to write about True Hope. I have used empower plus for over a year for fibromyalgia and have found it to be very beneficial. The writer of this article should try true hope products for at least a year under a doctor’s supervision. Then she can revisit writing such an article.
Agreed!
Yes!!! If you want to point out lack of data or proper proof, better have something better in hand than a customer service call that annoyed you. Data? Facts? Research?Own experience?
Otherwise, it’s just a very uninspiring opinion piece. I didn’t know much about this supplement but heck, gonna try it just so I actually HAVE a valid data. One is better than none…🤷♀️
This whole “cancel culture “ at a drop of a hat and a bunch of unreliable “he said/ she said” and anonymous allegations is what’s wrong with the society. It’s so easy to manipulate. No one is able to do their own thinking, not to mention research.
Hi Barbara,
It’s on them to provide proof, not on me to prove it doesn’t work. I’m not the one taking people’s money.
That said, I review the proof that _they_ offer here: https://bit.ly/empowerplus_review
And technically, yes, I have my own experience. I did try the product and, of course, it did nothing. I detailed how things weet on various posts on this blog.
This is not in any way about “cancel culture.” This is about informing consumers about what they’re getting into. From there, it’s up to them.
— Natasha Tracy
Does anyone know how long it takes for this to show results. I have been taking it, the new versions (4 per day) for 2 1/2 months and feel nothing. MY psychiatrist said I need to try it for 6 months. I would assume after 2 1/2 months I would feel something. I have Chronic MDD, Bad Social Anxiety Disorder, PTSD and C-PTSD. Plus I self harm when required. I cant find info anywhere on how long till you feel results. Anyone? Thanks.
Hi Rob,
I suspect the results are very individual. I can say that I felt its effects (negatively) within a month, but I’m just one person.
If your psychiatrist says to try for six months, that’s probably what I would go with.
That said, be open with him with your concerns about not feeling anything at this point. Maybe he’ll offer some additional information for you.
– Natasha Tracy
Thanks Tracy. He is back first week of March and he and I will do a secured skype type call to a psychiatrist in another city for new meds. I guess he wants another ones opinion or because I have multiple diagnosis maybe this other person is more a specialist. I will bring the thing up again. He is a long time psychiatrist and likes minimal drugs and alternative stuff if he thinks it can help. Ok thanks again. Cheers Rob
I took Truehope and never ever was ask to buy anything they know as much in my option then many of the psych dr i had
I don’t believe a word you are saying. This product saved a lot of lives in my family
Cheryl I hope your comment was not directed at me
You are so uninformed about how micro nutrient therapy works . The reason they ask you about medications is because if you take these vitamins with medications , The medications side effects will increase eventually and the meds need to be discontinued . Your supposed to have a psychiatrist trained in micro nutrient therapy to wean you off meds and reduce medication dosages as side effects appear . You can not take both at the same time . This is why they now ask for doctors notes before they even sell them to you .
Its not the vitamins that were causing you the problems , It was the meds . You cant take both. I have bipolar type 1 / adhd Have been stable for 3 years on truehopes products . 10x better than medications for me . Even if i take 6.25mg of quetiapine once i will start having side effects and problems again because of the interaction . This has been demonstrated in thousands of people but you think you know better? The fact you had a negative experience is most likley due to the fact you were so defensive and didnt listen to what they were trying to tell you . I can tell you if you take them on there own there is zero side effects . Its all from the the meds .
You should really educate yourself before putting out false misinformation on the internet.
Hi bRYDEN,
Thanks for your comment. I know of no research that says that you can’t take both together, and, in fact, doctors that I’ve consulted with agree with this as well. If you know of any research that speaks differently, I would love to see it.
— Natasha Tracy
Watch, “Letters from Generation RX,” on Amazon T.v. It is a documentary that details how big pharma and the FDA are in bed together.
In this documentary well educated people from Harvard, UMASS and Tufts are in it. Along with these people are studies and direct links and proof of the damage psychotropic medications can do.
Not a conspiracy theory movie. Just watch the movie and then judge for yourselves.
One, I live in the U.S. and took Truehope supplements that not only eliminated any need for Zyprexa or Zoloft but saved me life. (Bi-polar disorder is often a common disorder in people with Lyme’s Disease.) Since my two year experience, with Truehope, I have never had to take any medication for my mental health. Two, after the court case in 2007 or so, the judge actually apologized to the Canadian families who lost children to suicide because they could not get the supplement they needed to maintain stable mental health. As a journalist and medical writer, I am I am embarrassed by what you have written without any substantiation.
Hello Terry.
I am interested in speaking with you abut your experience with Truehope. I have a long history with alternative medicine.
I am happy to hear you had a good experience with Truehope. Katherine Falk is a a psychiatrist in NYC who recommended
Truehope/Empower Plus to me. I saw her twice. i stopped seeing her b/c her fee was $400 a visit plus the drive to the city was daunting. I learned about True Hope back in 2004 but did not follow through with them at the time. I am finally going ahead with this today. I am calling to set up a program.
If you have the time I would appreciate a response.
Thank you.
I took True Hope Empower Plus for 6 years, tapering down as i did so, and it helped a lot with anxiety and depression, gave me a more stable foundation for my other personal development work.
During this time True Hope people called me about 3 times a year to check in on me, see how I was doing. Never once did any of them try to sell me on other products. They also stated clearly that True hope does interact with other supplements. They offered good, common-sense advice on how to use the product, and did not try to answer questions they were not qualified to take on.
Good people, good product, and nothing works for everyone,
Hello Doug,
I am interested in speaking with you abut your experience with Truehope. I have a long history with alternative medicine.
I am happy to hear you had a good experience with Truehope. Katherine Falk is a a psychiatrist in NYC who recommended
Truehope/Empower Plus to me. I saw her twice. i stopped seeing her b/c her fee was $400 a visit plus the drive to the city was daunting. I learned about True Hope back in 2004 but did not follow through with them at the time. I am finally going ahead with this today. I am calling to set up a program.
If you have the time I would appreciate a response.
Thank you.
Everybody sounds like a marketing tool. Even Natasha here is yet an award-winning writer? So what’s her angle? Didn’t say whether or not this product helped her or not. Maybe you were hired to write against the company?
Can’t trust anybody these days
NOTHING works for everyone. EMPower is literally a life saver. I do, however, have a gripe. It DOES have at least one side-effect that I personally know of and when I tried to report it I was emphatically told, “EM Power has no side effects!” This saddened me immensely for many reasons. 1. Their product is good enough that a few side effects won’t scare people off. 2. I was hoping they had a solution for me and the side effect I was experiencing. I didn’t even realize I was experiencing side effects. I was complaining to my daughter about how I was feeling. I told her I thought I had fibro myalgia. She said, “It sounds like copper toxicity, to me.” I didn’t give it a second thought. A couple of years later, I was able to greatly reduce the EM Power. My bipolar symptoms were controlled. My body pain also all but vanished. If I got my rest and ate properly I was completely symptom free. That went on for a couple of years. A MIRACLE! I had a life I actually wanted to LIVE. Then several very stressful events cause a flair up in my symptoms, I called TrueHope and they helped me by telling me how much EM Power to take to get stable again. I did it. I stabilized, but my body pain returned. I wondered about my daughter’s earlier comment, but pushed it out of my mind. EM Power has no side effects. Once stable I was able to reduce the EMP again, and my body pain diminished again. I just filed the info under, “interesting coincidence”. A couple of years later, a death in the family destabilized me again. I increased EMP and my body pain returned. This time I took note. As soon as I reduced EMP, the body pain also subsided. So I checked the label and their are trace amounts of copper in EMP. I’m sure it’s not enough to bother most people, but it – or something – is certainly enough to bother ME! I called and was fairly rudely told I was wrong. That bothered me a lot. I still believe in EMP. I still take it. One capsule about 5 times a week. I would feel better if I could double that, but I’d be in so much pain, the trade off wouldn’t be worth it. I am CERTAIN my pain is caused by EMP because I’ve had a few more times when I needed to increase EMP and EVERY TIME my body pain increased and EVERY TIME I lowered the amount of EMP, the body pain lessened.
I only hope that others will speak up about any side effects so that perhaps TrueHope will make other variations of their formula. I would love to try it without the copper, because my daughter was right. My pain sounds just like copper toxicity.
All that being said, I still swear by TrueHope. I’ve tried meds, and I’ve tried homeopathy. EMP is the only thing that works for me.
I was on anti-depressants, on and off, throughout my later teens and in my twenties. In my early 30’s it was full-time, all the time. Around 35 or 40 I was diagnosed with bipolar and the fun REALLY began. More drugs, then more. They worked for a while, but eventually I began that slow deadly slide into oblivion. I just wanted to be dead. Life was no longer worth living. I spent all my spare time researching suicide. I wanted painless and foolproof and not messy (for my husband’s sake). One night as I researched, somehow I ended up somewhere that was talking about the book, “Can Nutrients Quiet the Unquiet Brain.” I bought it from Amazon. I learned about True Hope in that book and called them. I was desperate. Yes, they wanted my medical info. No they aren’t trained doctors. But MY doctors WERE medical professionals and they were KILLING ME! What did I have to lose?
It was scary. No two ways about that! They wanted me to start taking their pills and start tapering off my meds. I was reluctant and didn’t do the taper as soon as I should have and I started feeling really sick. Lots of anxiety. When they called to check on me, I fessed up and they explained why I was feeling like that and they suggested some of their other products to help with the transition. I thought it was a ploy so I declined to purchase the other products, but I did follow their advice on tapering off my meds, and I reluctantly started taking A TON of their EM Power! I think in the beginning you take 12 or 16 a day! I was scared, but I started feeling better little by little. Eventually, I was told to reduce the amount of EM power, and eventually I was off of ALL my meds. Eventually, I listened to them about their other products. Inositol and choline. I wish I had listened back in the beginning! They help HUGELY with the body anxiety and the repetitive thoughts. I could have gotten off of all those meds much more quickly and with much less discomfort.
The non-medical people who advise you on the phone all either take EM Power themselves or have a family member who does. So they may be reading their protocols out of a manual, but they also bring a lot of personal experience to the call, as well. If you talk to someone you feel isn’t very good, ask to talk to someone else. I’m usually very happy with whoever I speak with. I do have my favorite and I have spoken with one person who must have been brand new to the phones. She did not have anything to add, unfortunately.
If you are considering EM Power, don’t let the negative people scare you away. If you read the warning labels of your meds, THAT is really scary. TrueHope is NOT a scam. But, it IS expensive. And it’s scary at first. Your meds are your life-line and the thought of giving it up is terrifying. But if you follow what they tell you, and believe them when they tell you about the other products, you will most likely be much better off. Like I said at the start, NOTHING works for everyone. Good luck.
Thank you for your story. I can tell by the thoroughness that you are truly genuine about the product. And for certain you’re not making this up
Thank you soooo much for taking the time to share. I have been debating.if they really help me recently… I have been getting lower stomach pain too and vommitting in the morning, but I am very sure part of that os my poor eatung habits. Luckily I was able to see a naturopath for $17 in Toronto. They recommended EMP 6 years ago and it saved my life…perhaps there has also been a copper build up/intolerance developed in my body…
So, you trust our insurance company controlled modern medical system? Do your research before putting information on the web, please. Casting Truehope in a negative light without knowing the facts keeps people who would otherwise be helped left in a prison of agony. I am not affiliated with Truehope nor receive anything from them unless I purchase their products with my own money, so my position is my own. In fact, I am writing a book about the real causes of mental illness and how to rapidly get free from them. A couple of factoids:
Howard Hughes suffered from schizophrenia and was fortunate enough not to suffer from our modern medical system, and as was true of the nature of the disease, it left him after a period of time and he recovered without the modern medical system. The drugs, excuse me, pharmaceuticals, used to treat that illness lock it into a permanent condition when in most cases it does not have to be. You trust the modern medical system? You should do more research, like, into the Deep State that considers us cattle to profit from while they destroy us with the unnecessary poisons in our food (look out for dicambia treated crops, that’s next from Mons… blood cancers are the result) and better yet, the expensive, non effective psychotropic drugs. Fact is, when you break down all these drug evaluation reports and analyze them from an absolute vs relative risk standpoint, you find that all, that’s right ALL, pharmaceuticals are effective in only 3 to 5 percent of the population, that is, those who are genetically predisposed. And don’t even get me started on the nazi inspired statin drugs. Your brain NEEDS cholesterol, the issue is free radical and chemically damaged LDL cholesterol. You’re much better off taking natural anti-inflammatories like natural astaxanthin and curcumin-ex plus, and adding an iodine supplement, b vitamins and getting off of damaged dairy (one of the real culprits) etc. – don’t take my word for it, do the research for yourself. I welcome comments and corrections from those who know even more than me, btw…
Hey, I know I’m coming on strong here, ranting, even, so take this all with a grin from me. I’m just sick and tired of these people killing and torturing people with pharmaceuticals so some CEO bleep-hole can deceive investors while buying his thirteenth castle in the woods, know what I mean?
Me? I developed severe bipolar and anxiety symptoms, was treated with a psychotropic drug that caused diabetes, then treated with diabetes meds that I was allergic to. Result: lost my job, my career, my house, my family and wound up homeless and living in my van. Side note: Allergic to metformin? Look into Berberine, the natural substance that metformin was derived from (drwhitaker.com). No medical doctor told me about it, I had to find it on the internet by doing research. Thank God I didn’t have some ill informed person who didn’t like giving their medical history putting negative, unresearched information on the internet about berberine.
Truehope? Lifesaver. Empowerplus DOES interact with pharmaceuticals. A week of so after I first started taking it about twelve years ago, I started having mood disregulation issues and just plain felt weird. Got the call from Truehope and started tapering down on the pharmaceuticals while continuing to take Empower Plus (they didn’t have the advanced formulation then). Wah-la, sanity started to return and deepened as I continued to ramp up on the Empower Plus and get off the pharmaceuticals. And as I continued to drain the swamp of the alligators in my life and found out the real reasons behind my bipolar ( and slayed those dragons), I was restored to life and am now living my dream.
Look for my book, “From Survivor to Sojourner”, on the bookshelves and at Amazon if you want to get free from your illnesses and live the life you were intended to. It should be available around January 2017 (my publishers enforced deadline is November 2016 for final submission). And before you negative people start cranking on me for ‘selling my book’ or whatev(er), here, let me say that the ten bucks or so the book will cost is nothing compared to the tens of thousands of dollars people spend on counseling, pharmaceuticals, lost jobs and lost relationships etc.
Besides that, this is more than a book, it is a mission, and I need and invite help from the community and intend to provide a forum where others who have suffered and recovered can help those who are still struggling. I am deeply aware that I am not “All THAT” — If I’ve learned anything in my years of helping other people recover and overcome their life traumas, it is that no man, or woman, is an island. Please keep the negative out of your mouth and your keyboard about this project and instead, do the work, the research and then help all of us who need help!
Feedback, comments, suggestions, got something you need to teach me? lee.chosen at yahoo. Thank you in advance for your help. — Lee
Take a hard look at your drugs. Go on drugs.com (the FDA’s website) and look up side effects of your medication. If you’re taking more than one drug, list them all on “Interactions Checker”. The little red flags mean this combination can kill you. One of my friends had 7 “red flags”. He died less than 2 years later.
Who do you trust ? … Every 5 minutes an American is killed by an FDA approved prescription drug. I don’t know of anyone who was killed by EmpowerPlus. Drug companies do their own clinical trials and without oversight you end up with things like this… marketing dept. to research dept…”Cover up the suicides or Prozac won’t be approved and Lilly will go bankrupt.” … The suicides were listed as “did not complete the trial” and Prozac was approved by the FDA the next year (1986). Truehope’s EmpowerPlus has undergone over 37 independent research trials with no serious side effects noted.
i found this forum long after my wife quit taking this stuff. They prey on the desperate who really want to be free of a condition that has made their lives miserable. Their so-called advisors start one out on a certain dose, then increase their dosage as they advise the person that to keep a “balance” they need to reduce the medically
prescribed medicines and keep increasing theirs. It is a sales pitch and is all their “advisors” are there for. No
evidence of medical or technical qualification is given as there is no expertise there. In my opinion these folks should be doing a stretch in the graybar hotel.
Really appreciate your putting this information up. However, a few points to note:
1. it is very common for natural medicine to contraindicate with drugs. Many natural supplements contraindicate with other natural supplements. This is normal and not something to worry about. You simply take them at different times. Drugs however, are highly refined synthetic copies of what is found in nature. So when they contraindicate it can cause serious side effects. You can do the research yourself online. I would take the advice from the follow-up follow-up person. They will be clued up as to what medications contraindicate with the ingredients in the product.
2. Candida is a very, very common cause of everything from flu to cancer. It is implicated in virtually every ‘disease’. The ‘disease’ we are diagnosed with by our doctors is nothing but a symptom of malfunctioning processes within us – and almost all are caused by microbes combined with poor diet. This includes those we are genetically predisposed to. If bacteria, fungi or pathogens are the cause of your problem (and this is extremely likely whether you admit it or not) then all the supplements in the world cannot cure you and you will only get progressively worse, although perhaps very slowly.
Just to be sure, I don’t work for the company nor am I in any way affiliated with it, but by educating myself I have been able to begin to reverse my Candida and the beginning of Alzheimers; my mothers Alzheimers and cancer, and my father’s cancer. This is not serious stuff.
That said, it would be helpful if the company did put the contraindication info on the webpage, but I think this would scare people off for no reason. I think the follow-up call is amazing customer service, most companies leave you to figure it out for yourself. Although you can find everything you need online (but don’t believe the first thing you read – do plenty of research on each product / ingredient / herb etc), having a rep from the company tell you in a few minutes is much more time effective.
Did you take the Candida test by any chance? Even if its negative, which I doubt it would be (most everybody has excess Candida) there will still be another pathogen at the root of it all. Anyway, I hope you find something you feel comfortable taking which will help you. If you do nothing else, try to remove all processed food from your diet – dairy, wheat, grains, sugar. All the best.
Just for the record…. EmpowerPlus has its own DIN (Drug Identification Number) from Health Canada even though the product contains NO drugs. Also, Truehope’s Support Board is the ONLY ONE OF ITS KIND to be certified by Health Canada.
The fact that the founder of true hope had a son who made the decision to not take his toddler to the regular medical doctor says nothing about the product. Who knows what experience the father had with mainstream medicine that caused him to make a decision with a deathly consequence. Sometimes it feels like no one is safe to go see, because professionals are humans too, and some regular doctors give the wrong advice, make mistakes or are lacking compassion. You have to keep an open mind, and do the best you know how to at the time.
You really should look at the court case as that isn’t what happened at all. It’s coming out in court the child died from the hospital giving him too much saline. It had nothing to do with the parents it was 100% the children’s hospital.
Just going to finish your sentence for you…”…the decision to not take his toddler to the regular medical doctor or an emergency ward, and so child died says noth…..”. They’re fundamentalist mormons. They’re never wrong. Everyone else is.
Hi, I just wanted to add a new comment. I was suffering from constant persistent clinical depression and anxiety since age 14. It was completely debilitating, and totally derailed my hopes, dreams and ability to make or keep any friends, or connections. It killed my confidence and drained my spirit. I never felt alright, or even ok. I fought hard with super healthy diets, and was constantly pushing myself at the gym every day to try to feel better. In the end the years of struggle took its toll and for a few years I succumed to pharmaceutical meds. But these meds, I felt hollow at times and other times was sick of the side effects and decrease of efficacy. True Hope is one of the best things that has ever happened to me. I have been stable, and in a position to communicate with people, the brain fog has lifted, I feel smarter, I talk faster and can carry on intellectual converstations, I am not suffereing from social anxiety and terrible low self esteem. I also use fish oils, which improve brain health, supplemental B vitamins, probiotics, I have recently added an immune boosting mushroom supplement and it also aids in my well being…I think mental illness is an incredibly complex thing…obviously hard to study the brain while people are still alive. If it can be managed naturally (it took me 20 years to find True hope and the self appointed program that has ended up managing my condition consistently with a smooth ride to true health…1 yr 3 months on this product.) Do not close your mind to this. If there was any way I could share my story to help others I would want to. My brother has schizophrenia and I know the meds he is on are hard on his heart health, he has lived in a care home for people with this psychiatric disability for 2 decades and due to his physchiatrists advice is not willing to try true hope. Plus he always gets forcibly put in the psych ward if he gets off his meds due to his obvious symptoms. I wish I could get him on true hope, I worry his body and health could have been better if he had not been placed on such a hard core medication regime…People can heal from the desperate hoplessness of a longterm mental illness. I am living proof.
I’m a big believer that if you are not feeding your body with the correct foods then it can not operation the way it should. I’m also am a great believer in vegetarian or vegan life style as this diet has the most healthiest and longest living people in the world, also has the best out comes for cancer suffers. Detoxify, fasting also play a huge roll in good mental health. The new way of thinking is the “gut brain” if you have a healthy gut your brain is going be healthy to. Some Doctors that I have come across have had good success, with Mental illness here are some other profession people to look at: Dr Kelly Brogan MD. Dr Mark Hyman MD – broken brains, Dr Mark Gordon – Endocrinology, diabetes and metabolism specialist, he works with diet and hormones for mental health. So I think Truehope products are worth given a try as for other drugs they all have side effects and some very serious which all have FDA stamp of approval. FDA approved drugs kill more than 100,000 people a year. Also stay away from vaccines they are full of neurotoxins.
If you don’t want to give them your details then don’t. You don’t have to make a song and dance about. I’m happy to give my details so that they know my situation and can help inform me when i want advice.
Unfortunately so many on here that have not even tried the product or know anything about it are giving their opinion. Too bad people dont take more time learning and less time jabbering about things they know nothing about.
My experience with Truehope has been a positive one. I thoroughly educated myself on it first (which I see many folk on here have not). These are good people trying to help those with mental illness. My ex has severe bipolar disorder and is manic every 6 months, sometimes three and it lasts for about 3-4 months. After much coaxing he tried Truehope. Their support staff were fabulous. They are there to help, are they doctors, no, they are people that probably know more than doctors about mental health. I have been around many doctors from many different hospitals and believe me, they know very little. The bottom line is that an imbalance in the brain is caused by lack of nutrients. An ill absorption and Empower Plus gives the nutrients needed in the right amounts to aid in that. My ex was great the entire 14 months that he was on it. Then he went on a bender, we moved, he started a new job and was not being vigilant with his meds, he relapsed really bad(which they warn you about) and his parents just wanted him back on a traditional treatment for bipolar. He has never had that kind of mental health ever since. Just because it is natural, doesn’t mean it is less…in fact it, in my experience is usually better. Please people educate yourself before you start mouthing off that they killed their son from giving him Empowerplus to deal with a serious disease. They never claimed that it would help that. If someone uses it to cure their son and it doesn’t work, it is not their fault…This product works, many psychiatrists and doctors believe in the product and have seen it work themselves as I have.
You can see from the comments below they have created multiple users to praise their own brand. All the comments are the same oh I had phobias , voices blah blah blah I’m now off all prescribed drugs. What nonsense. There has been decades on decades of research by professional, I repeat professional for however long mental illness has been identified and you want us to believe your back garden drugs will work. How can we trust it?
On the other hand if your medications are so effective then surely you want to get it acknowledged in real medicine like in pharmacies or whatever. All you have is a site that could be a fraud. And a youtube channel with 1000 subscribers. I truly want to believe in your product but it’s too untrustworthy.
“It’s too untrustworthy” … and prescription drugs are “better” ?! 1985, Prozac clinical trials … marketing dept to research dept… ” COVER UP THE SUICIDES OR PROZAC WONT’ BE APPROVED AND LILLY WILL GO BANKRUPT ! ” … The FDA approved Prozac in 1986 based on the info they got from Eli Lilly.
Clearly planted reviews. PLEASE don’t take this. They killed their son with medical negligence. They drugged and forced fed EMP to the sister.
They encouraged me to withdrawal everything. I was horribly damaged. Almost didn’t make it.
They give their son, who suffer from meningitis, their natural treatments. Meningitis is highly treatable by conventional medicine. Yet their son got worse and died. Look at how effective their treatment was! Can you believe this people are actually making pharmaceutical products?
Now look at this:
A. If they take mental illness at a chemical level, the death of their son unfortunately proves that their products are not pharmaceutically effective, if they cannot even know the knowledge to cure such an easily curable disease (in evidence-based medicine)
B. If they take mental illness at a psychological level, which they should not, then that will mean that their products are of no use at all but a placebo drug.
Boho, dead end for both.
ps
http://www.cbc.ca/news/health-canada-issues-fresh-warning-on-supplement-1.673355
Health Canada said the adverse reactions (after taking EMPowerPlus) “relate to worsening of psychiatric symptoms in those patients with serious underlying mental health problems, such as bipolar disorder and depression.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/toddler-died-from-meningitis-after-anti-vaxx-parents-treated-him-with-maple-syrup-instead-of-medicine/
The CBC article says, “The problem may have arisen because users stopped taking prescriptiondrugs or tookEMPowerplus withprescribed drugs” So, it’s not from using the product but from using it instead of their medication, or at the same time. Yeah. I agree with those who have said that with any natural product you have to take it apart from a pharmaceutical — and if that pharmaceutical is helping you, you should not go off it! Unless you’re strictly supervised and being totally honest with your medical practitioner.
I’m trying to figure out whether to take this product or not. It did help me a few years ago, but I ran out and never got around to reordering. The above article doesn’t say it’s a dangerous product, but that when taken improperly there can be problems. So if you take it as directed, it should be ok.
Wow, how many people did TrueHope employ to claim that ‘their product works’? By simple statistics it is almost impossible for flocks of who have seen TrueHope to suddenly come and defend it. Say the last time you bought a nice T shirt online. So you at best leave a 5-star review. Do you then go to other sites regularly and keep on defending the product on every single site you know? I don’t think so.
TrueHope doesn’t work and if you’re feeling better, that’s because:
(1) Placebo effect
(2) You are not even suffering from mental illness, which I doubt buyers will do so
(3) You don’t want to admit you wasted your money
Its true this product works for many people. I have seen it. I have taken it but it wasn’t for me. I however live in the area it is sold. My own father who has struggled with alot of medications and vitamins needed help. They ACTUALLY helped him. You can NOT tell me or anyone that it was simply the placebo effect. Okay im going to be honest my father was borderline insane trying to get help. He tried Truehope for a bit after suffering for so long. It worked. I met with the owner myself to talk about his experiences. The actual owner. NOT THE ONE WHO HAD A BABY DIE. That couple DOES NOT own Truehope. Anyways, these people have gone through alot and put alot of work into their product but they have people that this works for. It is out there to help people that want it. If it works for those people then please dont attack the people just because you dont want to believe it.
Sounds about right.
lol wow , You are so wrong haha, far out . I was in and out of psychosis for years, No medications worked , I had to quit my job , Sold my house in psychosis , Was basicly homeless. Been stable on truehope with no meds for 3 years . Working in a high functioning job earning good money, Can concentrate and sleep , My fibromyalga is 100% gone , Havent been sick once , I still have ups and downs but theyre much easier to deal with now then when i was on meds or no meds . The fact you think this is placebo after 3 years is rediculous. I can still tell i have mental illness . Im not magicly cured , But the difference now is no one else would be able to tell. I appear normal. My highs are actaully kinda fun now , Just slightly elevated mood, no delusions or irritability , And my lows are just me being tired – no suicidal thoughts . Before these my life was very scary , Was 100% uncontrollable .
I quite often talk about truehope because i am amazed that something like this works so well. i had never heard about it until my psychaitrist recommened them.
The people who created this crap product killed their kid by refusing medical treatment. They “treated” meningitis, an inflammation of the brain, with maple syrup, garlic, olive oil, and other nutritional but not medical items. How anyone could seriously stand up for these idiots is beyond me.
They were cleared in court. Also, not aware it was meningitis.
The owners of Truhope just lost their 19-month-old child to meningitis after attempting to self-treat rather than seek medical attention. This blog post is linked in this article: http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/toddler-died-from-meningitis-after-anti-vaxx-parents-treated-him-with-maple-syrup-instead-of-medicine/comments/#disqus
Hi Nate,
Thanks for sharing. I did know this and I can’t believe these are the people who want to believe, want to support and want to buy from.
– Natasha Tracy
Okay, lets get something straight. The owners of Truehope are NOT affiliated with that case. The man that had his son die only works for the company. They in no way own it or hold any leadership roles. Please do more research before attacking innocent people.
They were cleared in court. Also, not aware it was meningitis.
Bottom line, my friend, it works. Yes Empowerplus works really well. I’m off nearly all of my psychotropic drugs (of which there have been dozens over the time since diagnosed with BP 2) and many people have noticed the difference, the great improvement in my mood, energy level, and general well being. Stay on the nasty psychotropic drugs and let big pharma make obscene money if you prefer that dead end treatment.
I have been on Empower plus for over ten years. It has helped w/ my bipolar condition. I was on anti-depressants for over 8 years. Those drugs left me in a “fog.” I was functional, but felt that part of my personality was drugged. I tapered off the drugs, but floundered. I tried large dose B-Vitamins, which helped. Plus exercise, dog walking, counseling. Then I found Empower Plus online and started on it. It isn’t perfect, but has made a huge difference in my life. I still get lows and depressed, but not the depths I had before. I still get highs, but not so high or depressed that I sell and move–run away (I have moved 7 times, and sold 4 houses in 5 years). So it works for me. When I am late on my Emp Plus, I can feel my anger building. I’ve been on the max dose and am now down to maintenance. I won’t hesitate to increase my dosage if my anger, rants, depression or highs get out of control. I like feeling nearly normal. I like being productive, content, calm, on an even-keel. It helps me and I wish the same for others. I don’t take any other meds but B-vitamins and Empower Plus and seem to be functioning well these days. Although a natural nutritious diet, exercise, meditation, and discussion groups all help, I don’t think that I would be as well-functioning and productive without Empower Plus.
Hello, I am one more person for True Hope. No matter how unprofessional and under-educated some of their support staff may be, this product works. I had debilitating anxiety, phobias, panick attacks, an eatting disorder in my early teens. I dropped out of high school due to these issues. I moved out of my home town and tried to start my life in my early 20’s. I lost my friends and jobs consistently due to my illness. It took me many years of failure and inability to keep friends, and to leave the shame behind of feeling suicidal, and the shame that maybe I had depression. I was not willing to accept it because I thought depression was not a serious clinical illness at the time. I ate a super clean diet and was addicted to exercising to give me relief from my low moods and anxiety. In my early 30’s I turned to medications to manage depression, they worked (but the side effects were a burden.) It was the first time I could recognize, well if these meds work for me, it confirms that I was indeed suffering from depression. Today I am so lucky to be functional with True Hope, this product works. Exercise and healthy diet also play into managing mental health big time. The gut produces like 90% of the body’s serotonin, dopamine and gaba..because this is more recently scientifically proven…this is the reason why we need to protect our gut environment and keep the friendly bacteria existant in a good supply…having a balanced gut directly impacts the health of the mind. Google search gut mood, friendly bacteria to see Dr’s talk about it. Thanks and sorry this is long winded. People please be well.
Empower and the helpful staff who worked with my daughters physician to lower her doses from Effexor while raising the doseage of the empower until her side effects and horrible results from Effexor and into the calm slide into empower. My daughter had extensive psychiatric evaluations over several years and was evaluated as an functional anxious depressive. Scored 90 % anxiety 95 % depression . A young person who ate well and was an athlete hiding her disorder and desperation in explosive temper tantrums and nightly crying bouts.
The horrific list of side effects from a series of failed ssri’s can’t be listed here. As her mother, the concern and worry was indescribable. A psychologist friend recommended I investigate and research empower. It took another year of trying Paxil,Wellbutrin and Effexor before the her doctor said there was nothing else he could recommend.
I did then investigate empower and she started her protocol under the supervision of her physician and the person assigned to her file at true hope.
I can’t say enough about the life saving gift empower was to our lives. Our daughter went from a disfunctional mess who was desperately calling me daily, ashamed of failing out of her freshmen year. She could barely live with herself or others. She came home to rest and recuperate and we began to look for alternatives to chemically balance her. 2 years into her supervised “program” she was able to achieve 3.8 at a local university in sciences and transferred to UBC And in 2012, graduated bachelor of science degree then did another 1 1/12 years in engineering. Her achievemente were unthinkable when formally her prescriptive drug program left her a dysfunctional suicidal insomniac, angry and despondent by turns. I am not saying prescriptive drugs don’t help some people. I only hope that any one to whom our story sounds familiar can find for themselves what an effective and healthy alternative this nutraceutical supplement is.
For Natasha and anyone else interested: just forwarding a link to someone who is quite interesting – there’s always more to learn…
http://www.balancingbrainchemistry.co.uk/peter-smith/30/My-Mental-Health-Recovery–.html
Hi Roberta,
I find this to be nonsense, but that’s me.
– Natasha Tracy
Blimey Natasha, I just read that load of ramble on balancing brain chemistry. Not only is the website full of typos, he refers to hypermania (which is not a medical or otherwise term!) and the fact that he allegedly used himself as a chemistry experiment is utterly stupid. I read it through and found it to be very dangerous information. Yes, I know that standard treatments for bipolar disorder and other psychiatric treatments are far from ideal, but until something else can be proved to be safe (in that it doesn’t precipitate a relapse) and effective, I won’t touch it with a fully extended barge pole. I’m currently in an online dispute with someone who is apparently the founder of Empower plus. i got saddled with him by posting something about restless leg syndrome on a fibromyalgia support page on facebook. I happened to mention that because I take a raft of meds to control my BP1 I am somewhat limited to what I can take for my fibro. Anyhow, he chose to go on about my bipolar and how I could treat it with his alternative supplements! I argued with him that it was a dangerous thing to suggest that people should go off their meds in favour of his supplement. He has continued to try and push me to buy them. This conversation has been going on for more than a day and he continues to try and peddle them. He says that he is ‘drug free’ now. I have asked him several times if that means he has a mental illness and has treated it with his supplement. Needless to say he has avoided answering that question.
These people are insane and I worry for those who may be influenced to give up their meds in favour of their spurious supplement. In addition to my psych meds I live a healthy life. I eat organic food. I avoid chemical contaminants as far as possible (given that my budget is relatively small) and take supplements. However, what I will NOT risk is going off my meds altogether in favour of his supplement. He is trying to sell it with a zeal that I find troubling. And I agree with you. Peter Smith appears to be talking complete nonsense.
Unless you try EMpowerplus yourself with an open mind, you cannot say that it wont work. I have seen it work and the truly amazing results firsthand.
I am replying to K. Hi K, I loved to read your story. There are many suspicious people on this thread who don’t seem to want to try true hope, which is up to them. And there are many success stories. Your daughters achievements are incredible. I sure wish that I had found true hope earlier as I did not until I was 34. It is tough, because all those years lost-it’s hard for me to make amends with it some days-it’s like a gaping hole where I ought to have had a life. I want you to know how lucky your family is to have had the dark curtain lifted from from your daughters life and to be blessed with mental wellness. This makes me feel really good. I too wish I could reach out and touch more people’s lives based on the way my mental health has improved. I was fearful long enough in the world to exist as a depressive- due to the stigma, and for many decades in the past admitting such a state would certainly not garner any sympathy (society is only currently covering mental health awareness more vigorously in the media)… yet once again it almost seems fearful to admit how much my health has been improved, as the dissent seems to run deep in some people for the possibility of a light at the end of the tunnel in this health product. Go figure. Anyways, take care.
It’s an absolute fact that Truehope’s EmpowerPlus has a 70% “success” rate with MINIMAL negative side effects. It’s also an absolute fact that psychiatric drugs have a 26% “success” rate with serious life threatening “side effects”. None of the mass shootings have involved anyone taking Empowerplus. Every mass shooting has involved shooters on psychiatric drugs. The most dangerous person to a small child is their mother on “antidepressants”. Children are 5 times more likely to be killed by their mother on psychiatric drugs than by anyone else. … 1985 Prozac clinical trials in Germany … memo from the marketing dept to the research dept. … ‘COVER UP THE SUICIDES OR PROZAC WON’T BE APPROVED AND LILLY WILL GO BANKRUPT’. ( The suicides were then listed as…”did not complete the trial” … and Prozac was approved by the FDA.)
So… it’s no different from any other big pharma medicine with it’s own innate list of side effects and possible adverse reactions when used with other prescriptions? What I’m hearing is, they actually follow up in order to make sure you’re making safe choices and being involved in the process, rather than just push an “herbal” remedy.. and you’re taking offense to it. Hmm. Are you a paxil rep? lol
I found Truehope a few years after my husband committed suicide due to pharmaceutical drugs which the psychiatrist prescribed. All in all he was prescribed 12 different drugs, many of which now hold the label, “Caution: May cause suicidal behavior”. Interesting…..My family and I have used EmpowerPlus, Inositol and some of Truehope’s other products over the 15 years since his death and found they really do work for depression, anxiety, ADHD, panic attacks, insomnia, detoxing for heavy metals and generally whole body nourishment due to their great rate of absorption of nutrients that are lacking in today’s modern diet. I am a Dietitian, Alternative medical practitioner and body therapist. I have never found such quick results and improvement in my and other’s health when taken regularly and with the support of the knowledgeable staff at Truehope. If you are worried that they are not a mental health professional, since when did mental health professionals have the corner on being able to heal the body, mind and spirit.? Since when did toxic drugs cure disease rather than suppress a symptom? And, how many effects were caused by these drugs, including suicides? Did you know that thousands of people have filed law suits against these legal drug dealers and they win but only under the conditions of a “gag order”. The psychiatrist who prescribed drugs to my husband actually killed my husband but he will never be charged, and the pharmaceutical industry will keep making more drugs and experimenting with us as long as it keeps making them money. Psychiatrist, sadly, do not know what they are doing with drugs. They only know what the pharmaceutical industry reports and tells them about these drugs. We all know that the pharmaceutical industry makes billions of dollars off drugs and are allowed by the FDA to have NO independent, peer reviewed studies to back up their claims of effectiveness . You won’t find that with Truehope. I am sorry this web site has invested so much time and effort into condemning a company who is truly non-profit, mission based, with many long term University clinical trials on real people who give real testimonies. Try Truehope and you will know that they are sincere.
I’ve been considering trying Truehope after a friend said that it has helped her. I’ve read about the good and bad about the product online. I have been struggling with severe depression since I was 11 yrs old, I’m now 40. I’ve have/had intensive therapy, I eat well, have a regular exercise routine, and take a combination of various meds under the supervision of a excellent psychiatrist. All of these things have helped me (and kept me alive) but despite all this my depression has re-occurred. I’ve required hospitalization on a number of occasions. My last episode forced me onto disability and I was off work for almost 2 years.
I’ve have a mental illness and I’ve accepted the fact I’m always going to struggle with depression to some extent. I don’t believe that there is one product, medication, vitamin, doctor or therapist that is going to be “the answer”. I’m going to give Turehope a try. Maybe it will help me, maybe it won’t. I’m hoping that maybe Truehope will help improve my mood in combination with the things I am already doing. It would be nice if I could reduce the amount of meds I’m on. But I won’t even consider that until I speak with my psychiatrist. I don’t believe that going off all my meds for Truehope is the answer. I just don’t believe in an all or nothing approach to any product or treatment.
Jennie try going off Tru-hope (Tru-death) first. They say it is a “med” so just go off it before you start. Buy some extra strength Centrum and you’ll get the same effect. Wal-mart has the same generic Centrum (give or take ingredient amount/strength) for three US dollars and change for 100 tablets (three months plus supply). They are criminals and scum who wish to con you. Scrape them off the bottom of your feet and read more posts on Natasha;s site to know who you are dealing with.
Do you know Herb?
WN
The Truehope staff can guide you while you reduce the meds you are on. As your body gets real nutrition and enzymes and co-factors that it needs to make the neurotransmitters in the brain and also rebuild the brain you won’t need the meds. I have been through this and it works. At the root of my mental illness was heavy metal toxicity from mercury poisoning. There is always a cause. Empower Plus and a few of their other products helped me get well. Of course tell your doctor what you are doing, but don’t let him discourage you in his own ignorance of nutrients for the brain. Of course—-we need nutrition for all our other body parts, why not the brain? There are many reasons people are not getting good nutrition today, but that is a whole other story. Good luck to you!
The Truhope (Trudeath) staff are all minimum wage (Aprox.) employees (or the owners themselves and relatives). They have no education in bio-chemistry, psychiatry, psychology, pharmacology, statistics, neurology or any other field that is relevant to being a “counselor” or “staff” as they call them.
This particular poster claims to understand “nutrition and enzymes” and “co-factors” that the human body needs to manufacture neurotransmitters and to “rebuild the brain”. Therefore this posters, using this foolish and totally b.s. explanation claims Rx medications aren’t just not needed but negates them offhand with their superior understanding of all these sciences. This proves this poster is to be disregarded as well as any comments they may make.
This poster also claims there mental illness was caused from heavy metal toxicity, specifically mercury. I bet this person doesn’t even know what a heavy metal is and why they are toxic to humans. Again, I’ll bet on it. I guarantee this person has no idea at all what the periodic chart is and what it means. Did this person swallow mercury from thermometers or are they using the dental filling insane unproved argument. I suppose every human being who has had a mercury amalgam filling is either a victim of BP, another type of depression, schizophrenia and so on. So basically all of us are MI. And of course Trudeath will help us all.
The poster also claims there is always a cause. Of mental illness I suppose? Again although the cause could be unknown by anyone including the best scientist and Dr’s. in the world. Real ones, not Tru death operators (sorry staff and MH professionals).
Interesting how Trudeath and their posters (they are almost all working or benefiting from the company) tell us all how medical science is total crap and worthless yet even in a so called post by an independent poster they say “Of course tell your doctor what you are doing”. Disclaimer by a company who can be tracked making these comments themselves? I have very recent evidence of this and will be enlisting the services of a former college room mate who has advanced degrees in both electrical engineering and computer science. I myself do not.
Please do not purchase and products from this company or under any of it’s aliases. They are total con -artists and live on the total edge of legality. Not because of gov’t conspiracy’s and the like but because they are criminals and terrible human being. Please look into these people diligently and honestly and I’m sure you will discover the same as I have. WN
Hi All
I like Carrie’s comments.
I have seen TrueHope work an absolute miracle in the life of my 38 yr old son.
Part of a university Psych/Chemistry study, as a subject, due to his severe ADHD diagnosis he went off his meds to take part in a 12 week trial.
The results were absolutely startling in his case.
He has now been on TrueHope for 5 years and has achieved huge career advances, and a life completely changed and a joy to behold for this father.
I said to him recently “I always hoped you would become the person that you could be, but did not expect it.”
The quality of his life and that of his wife and three children has improved out of recognition.
I detect in other comments, a very high degree of antagonism towards the product.
From my families standpoint our experience has been that of a miracle.
I can only speak as you find.
Some of the statements in the original blog are false. The product is endorsed by many U.S. psychiatrists who use a regimen to replace psychotropic drugs. Dr. popper went to Canada to fight the Canadian government when they tried to stop True Hope and due to his testimony they won the case. It is not a one size fits all approach but has helped many people recover and remain stable as I have experienced in my own household. Do your own research before deciding if it is right for you.
True Hope (True Death), Synergy etc., etc., and so on an whatever this Canadian con artist tries to pawn off to people are vitamins. It’s a SCAM. There is no reason to look into it any more. Pseudo science is a toll the fool who owns this company uses to sell there useless products. The man is a lair a cheat and is involved in multiple suicides in his own family. Just think about how much he cares about you and your family nothing. He is garbage and a total piece of s___. A coward and a cheat. WN
Will, I’ve disregarded the majority of the things said here because of a superb lack of relevance.
You’re on the spot now buddy! Be real and answer me a few questions, if you would please.
1. How do you envision these comments/rants helping anyone?
2. What is so special about your circumstances that makes you an authority on anything?
3. If you can’t show stability, (which you have not) should anyone do anything but take your statements as flatulence? A perpetual backfire of hot air!
4. How is your life ever going to be better when you are always blaming everyone else for not fixing you?
Regardless of what you think your contribution here is. Just know that anyone with deductive reasoning can see quite plainly that you have a very hard time accepting responsibility. And when it comes down to it, if I were to compare you to True Hope. I’d be left with the obvious, True Hope has taken the initiative to attempt a solution.
Will Most, you have done nothing but add unnecessary babble to a brook people are trying to find life in. Quit pissing in the water and do something for yourself and quit thinking you are so special that because you “say” anything, people should listen.
Get a life,
Be well :)
I have far more of a life then the family you have directly/indirectly killed. Or as the mouthpiece for that person. Unlike you my life isn’t about money and I can’t be bought, nor will I make a profit from the suffering of others. Least of all my own family’s suicides, or again as a mouthpiece for the scum in question. I should not say the one in question as we all know who this miscreant is. You sir are already dead in every way other then vital functions. As a man you are no more a speck of dirt and of even less value. Your value is only to yourself. You are as Kevin Trudeau. Only you aren’t in prison yet. I even suspect there may be a connection. I will do all I can to see you there and worrying about bending over for the soap. I could take it you couldn’t.
Inconsistent. You live again in a box of consistency based upon the maximum amount of cash you can accrue. Your mind is so narrow you can’t grasp that others would have ideas and goals outside of that little box. In short you are not that bright and do to this you think those with BP or other MI are not up to your level and don’t understand your con. That is a mistake. You are the one who doesn’t understand. The one thing you do is understand desperation in the ill of all types. This hole you exploit as much as you legally/illegally can. Another thing you forget is there are people watching you. Those like me who can’t be bought. Something you will never understand. Again due to that very small box you live in.
You of course understand by now that your legal threats will have no effect upon me. I’m not sure but I suspect perhaps that you may also have guessed that physical threats will also have no effect. Again, some people can’t be intimidated legally, physically or otherwise. We have concern for others. It is our role. Same as your goal is money. Natasha, although I don’t totally agree with is a very good person and has concern for others. She fears your threats for good reason. I don’t, also for good reason.
As to your assertion that I blame others for everything. I have zero idea what you are talking about? Seems you have just thrown that into your comments for no reason other then trashing me. Sounds good though I guess. For clarification, I blame no one for anything negative in my life. I come from a very good family with good values, unlike the twisted reality of yours as either the main perpetrator or the paid one. That of course is no fault of your own. Only you actions afterward. My parents were both gainfully employed there whole lives. They were married 49 years until my fathers death almost four years ago. Have no idea again where this comes from. Could it be your own family’s problems? My difficulties and strengths come mainly from genetics and the very good family I grew up in. How about the specifics of your family and genetics? You wont give them of course and/or will lie about them because again/again money is your goal and lies are your method. My way is slower but far more trustworthy and accurate. Yours is quick, inaccurate and dishonest.
I’m not your buddy (nice veiled threat) and my opinions (rants, from your twisted imagination) inform others of your lies and the lies of your company. And the cash and cash only goals of it. Synergy, Tru-Death, Tru-hope and on and on are scams by scam artist. People (if we can call you that), who are out of the loop of human compassion. A genetic defect (or otherwise) I suppose that make some humans perpetually prey on others. It may have a use. None for me as far as I can see.
Your grasp of deductive reasoning is almost nothing. I’m also suspect that you even know what inductive reasoning or any other type of reasoning is? My claim to fame in why I’m reliable and you aren’t is that I’m well educated and have much experience in spotting liars. Also, to be blunt I’m far more intelligent then you are. Far more. Even when I’m at my worst. You are a fool and anyone here can tell. You use science only as a way to dissuade others to buy you b.s. vitamins. I use science to find the truth. One truth I’ve found is that you are a liar and a cheat and that you are a terrible human being.
I have Bi-polar and suffer its terrible effects on my emotions but it does not effect my ability to reason. You don’t suffer from it but you do lack the ability as well as the ability to care for other human beings.
You Sir are S___. And don’t get a life. Your life just hurts others. And don’t be well as if you are you make others sick and they may die. WN
Will,
You failed the challenge!
Get a magnifying glass that is a bit more introspective and burn your little anthill of hate down. Your rants are so much less than insulting, because you sir. Make zero sense, the content of your last comment leads me to the sad realization that you are quite delusional. None of your claims are based on anything but a fabricated reality.
Go kiss a puppy or something, I wish you the best. I must unsubscribe to this blog because people with mental difficulty don’t need another troll like you.
I’m curious will, why do you think vitamins and minerals (many of which we dont get in a normal north american processed availability diet) are useless or a scam?
i will have you know I am just a lazy person who doesnt want to take a bunch of different pills and powders every day to feel normal again. I have anxiety and depression. I almost killed myself a few times. I get mad for no reason.
Apparently most people think this has to do with “pms and being female”. it doesnt. even my dr and professional family members (who work in the canadian healthcare system, and dont trust a lot of it) agree I am more myself and a better easier version of me to be around. I feel happier. I dont cry for no reason.
I have been looking at this product because it has what I feel would be a lot easier than taking like i said, 15 different items daily, it would also be easier on my wallet, as i make under 32k annually… (which is ridiculous when rent usually costs about 1k-1200 a month).
Many things cause issues. I know for a fact I dont get proper electrolytes (i do not absorb enough and try to), among other things.. This was suggest to try out by several people and I will be..
Now, back to you, why do you go running around forums shouting about minerals and supplements being fake and stuff? do they not work for you? have you not found the proper amount that you need?
Be aware Natalie that James has been jumping around all of Natasha’s posts and under different names and so on to try and discredit me with false accusations. He’s come up with none and in fact on numerous occasions made an absolute fool of himself in the area of his claims and his rebuttals to the claims I have made.
He even does this to divert his foolish understanding of science by going elsewhere in the comments to make an assertion and hoping it will stick and then to return to where it is relevant.
James is a fool with no education whatsoever in any field and I suspect a true-death salesman in the Seattle area. Could be wrong but he seems quite familiar with heroin treatment centers in that area. I also believe you may be sucking on the same teat. Could be wrong of course but greed easily reveals itself most of the time. More to come. WN
One of the persons heavily pushing TrueHope on Facebook is a woman called Janice Matthews. You can see Truehope spam all over her timeline.
https://www.facebook.com/janice.matthews.566
As tempting as it is to believe she’s just a sucker, its far more likely she’s a huckster. Matthews is the founder of the conspiracy website 911truth.org and has been involved with a truly vile group of scammers, selling trutherism through a fake non-profit called ae911truth.org and pushing all sorts of scientific frauds on her website.
http://www.pitch.com/kansascity/bush-blew-up-the-twin-towers/Content?oid=2183666
(for more Google janice matthews ed kendrick. Many woo scams have a disturbing association with antisemities/antisemitism)
http://www.911truth.org/ae911truth-org-speaks-to-mit/
http://www.911truth.org/academic-papers-on-911/
(fake papers to support trutherism)
Now money is running out for the twoofer gig, looks like she’s moved into health and suppilment woo. Make no mistake: these people are only into it for $$$$$$$$.
Borders again? Fuzzy text?
Tank you FYI for the info. if any of it proves correct i’ll look into it. I’ve been doing a little look see on a couple things myself. Sorry I can’t share. I don’t directly use Facebook but access it in a different way. I don’t wish to perpetuate the Facebook system. Suspect Europe will eventually criminalize it.
As for the 911 truth idiots (if Natasha will so kindly let me use that word to describe individuals who are not MI nor of low intelligence yet continue to perpetuate absolute irrational fantasies upon the world). Regardless of the fact that the US has committed unforgivable atrocities upon the world as well as engaged in aggressive, unprovoked, offensive and criminal warfare against numerous countries and individuals and entities. This does in no way justify pushing fantasies of boogie men in the US killing it’s own citizens and others within the US. I understand motivation from Synergy-True-death etc. wishing me to state my views on these things. As a large customer base of theirs are individuals inclined to think in these ways and therefore in their own greedy ways discredit me by claiming 911 and other tin-foil hatter type thinking is irrational they hope to promote their case. And I suppose regretfully they are correct.
They are just another dishonest group who wishes to profit off those looking for honest answers and treatments for the things that vex us all. They are not friends of the questioners just greedy predators looking for yet more money.
Again, True-hope is a scam. Soon i’ll be listing other names they sell under. Tax returns. Aliases and so on.
As for anti-jewish(sem). As in being violent and so on against Jew’s or any other religious group is bs and in itself should be opposed. As for Israel. Israel is daily acting in totally inhumane ways to people of all religions, races etc. who oppose their far right increasingly totaliarian(sp) gov. Israel was founded on terrorism. King David hotel as an example. Torture, imprisonment without charge. Driving hundreds of thousands of Palestinians from their homes. The list goes on and on and on. Netanyahu is a war criminal as have been 2-3 othe Israeli prime ministers. Illegal occupation of the West Bank, Gaza etc. Israel is a criminal state that harbors terrorists and all US aid should end and possible sanctions and embargos. Arms shipment to them should be illegal and the ones who do should be imprisoned. To be anti-jewish is unforgivable (other then like other religions the fake god fantasies). To be anti-israel is to be a good person.
WN
I went off all my meds exactly the way I was told by a NewHope rep. At first I was fine, I felt great, then in about a month I began to have serious anxiety and could barely get up or stand. I had friends going to the health store to buy supplements to help me with my symptoms. TrueHope reps told me that the symptoms were caused by my medication withdrawals. The problem with that is they didn’t start until 4-6 weeks of being off the medications. I am diagnosed with bi-polar II. At the time I started the True Hope program I was attending grad school and had an A average in all my classes. During that time of anxiety I almost withdrew from school. I finally called my Doctor and she put me back on Seroqual so I could actually sleep and get some relief from my symptoms. From there I gradually went back on my medications though I was able to scale it back a bit. What I learned from that time is that I really do need medications. I take full responsibility for going off them. It was my own decision. I would like to believe that there is something out there that can cure or at least alleviate my symptoms but I realize part of my problem is that I just don’t want to need medication.
I have used True Hope/Em Power off and on for approximately the last 5 years. My brother has also used it off and on. He found it first and then told me about it. We both have classic anxiety /depression symptoms that range from mild to severe and he also roller coasters on manic to depressive episodes that are reminiscent of bi-polar symptoms.
To many, the idea that a specific combination of nutritional minerals and vitamins would help with mental issues would seem simplistic and frankly, like some have said below, a con. That is not what I experienced nor my brother. Its not a con. It works for us. It was not a placebo. Unfortunately, It just doesn’t work for everyone. Just like pharmaceuticals don’t work for everyone. I knew that about Em Power before I bought it. For some, it may work only a little and for others it is positively a huge life changer.
For me, I’m solidly in the middle of that category. It works. I keeps my depression and anxiety on the milder side of spectrum instead of living in the severe zone all the time but I didn’t completely get rid of my depression and anxiety disorders. I often stop using it when things are going well. My brother is the same. Then I slide right back down into the hole I thought I had left for good and I start taking it again. He has a tendency to slide down the rabbit hole and just stay there.
My husband, who is about as disbelieving, cynical and cheap as one can get, orders it and asks if I remembered to take it. He says “Its worth the expense. You’re different. You’re happier and calmer. You are more present.” I absolutely do notice the more present thing. The world comes into sharper focus. I notice less the happier and calmer emotions he mentions. Its the same for my brother. He doesn’t seem to notice that he is wildly fluctuating but I can pinpoint with great accuracy when he’s not taking it. He’s edgier. He’s angry. He rants. He’s depressed. He’s crap to be around and yet, he thinks we all have the problem and he’s jut fine.
My husband tells me that I am the same. I didn’t believe him until I watched my brother deny he was raging. Deny he was severely depressed. Deny anything was wrong at all. I guess when we are in the cycles of whatever it gripping us, it does seem normal. We’re not depressed, we are just us. We’re just sad like everyone else though they are over it in a day or two and we are over it in a month or two. We’re not edgy, that just us. Yelling at your kids at the littlest upsets is what all good parents do. Popping blood vessels in our eyes and grinding our teeth is absolutely not hurting our hearts or causing migraines. We’re not ranting, it just us reacting to our environment like everyone does. Its completely normal to fly off the handle when driving or spew vitriol and hate online to people who don’t agree with us. I would sometimes catch glimpses of other people’s reactions when I’m way out in left field emotionally and they are looking at me like I’m a ticking bomb. I didn’t get it. I didn’t feel like I was a time bomb emotionally but yeah, I was and still can be one.
What Em Power does for me is smooth the emotional ‘normal’ that DNA has given me to live with. It smooths my edges. It helps me find a space to think clearly without all the excess energy from the anxiety/panic that typically crowds out the thoughts in my brain. It gives me a sense of calm and hope when I feel the black dogs of depression biting at my heels. When the depression hits and I haven’t been using my Em Power, I can go all the way under and months can go by before I re-emerge. With Em Power, I still get sad. I still get anxious. Those feelings don’t disappear but they don’t overwhelm me. I suppose I feel like other mentally healthy people do…”life sucks right now but there are sunny skies ahead. I can do this.”
I’m sorry that it didn’t work for everyone as the comments below attest but if you’re at the end of your rope like I was and the cocktail of pharmaceuticals isn’t working anymore or never did, I believe that True Hope is worth a chance with your doctor’s full knowledge and help. I’m in California. There are a lot of doctors that practice mainstream medicine and also have in house nutritionists in their practices or refer out to one. Combining mainstream medicine with nutrition is not considered wacky, it’s just considered good medicine. And as my doctor stated… ” if your depression and anxiety are helped by nutrition and not by traditional medicines, I don’t care. The goal has been and will always be, that you feel better.” He doesn’t seem threatened by less traditional forms of care, but I understand if some of you don’t have that experience with your doctors.
Good luck and best wishes to you all. May you or your loved ones find some peace in this horrible hell of mental disorders.
No matter what products are on the market. Many have reaction to other products. It is always beneficial if you make sure what you are taking does not react with another product. Any company that is willing to spend money to follow up can’t be that bad. If the product works use it, work with a professional to track your progress. Common sense prevails.
It’s a scam. Plain and simple. These are my words and no one else’s. True-hope (death) is a scam to steal money from the ill. They care zero about anyones progress (in fact they hope you get sicker to sell you more, same as any other drug dealer-difference here is there vitamins do nothing).
Con artists. WN
If a person is mentally ill, it is best to seek professional advice from a doctor or naturopath! Bipolar-schizophrenia is no joke!!!
Michel Have.
No seeking advice from naturopath (see made-up spreader of fantasy) is about as useful as taking your money and flusing it down the toilet. I’m guessing this BP-S is a new diagnosis I haven’t heard of. I must admit I haven’t kept up with the new DSM. Actually anyone here have a free link to the text? Would be greatly appreciated. Getting old and dusty on so much.
Naruropath. I’m guessing one at true-death?? WN
It has taken me over an hour to sift thru so much ‘garbage’ reading about a topic that was important to me and yes, months and months later, after the original post, I am talking about TrueHope and EmpowerPlus! and I don’t care who doesn’t like it (because I just found this blog). I have to say Will Nist and Michael have totally railroaded the discussion, broken umpteen rules, had private discussions to each other that they didn’t need to have and have not been respectful of people’s differences – anyone who disagreed with them, has been attacked in one form or another.
I for one do disgree with Natasha’s findings and I say it most respectfully. I’m glad a representative from TrueHope is here to clarify and give further information that her post didn’t have. AND!! I find it bordering on ‘ignorant’ and disrespectful that two commenters question those who say they live with bipolar disorder. You judge people by what they write; yet you haven’t walked a mile in their moccassins or sat in with their doctor consultations – but for some reason you have an armchair degree of some sort that allows you to say whether someone is or isn’t bipolar. Shameful behaviour.
I’m the parent of a now 16 year old boy living with bp disorder and a few other mental health challenges – diagnosed when he was 7 and I’ve researched supplementation up the ying yang. My mother buys the product for my son – and we have consulted with the staff on the phone – a number of times. They have been very careful in letting us know that their findings are for adults (he’s been taking the product for over 4 years now, in conjunction with his medication)…and yes, we consulted with his psychiatrist and a pharmacist for contraindications first – in ‘our experience’, he is doing better with the assistance of EmpowerPlus (and yes, he also takes Omega 369 too!)…and is taking less seroquel since he started with the product.. No more psychosis since he started and yes, he still has alot of challenges with his mood, it’s not as severe, nor is his anxiety and adhd symptoms.
Plus, I believe in nutrition (either from food or supplements) as being invaluable to one’s wellness or improved mental health. These are my beliefs and we have found alot of good in the product – as have thousands of others – the data can’t be discounted. And it’s not for everyone, just like Tylenol works for some people’s headaches and others prefer Motrin – we are all different and will have different findings. For Natasha to not believe in the product and blog about it, is her prerogative – and for those to reply in support or not, is their perogative – but for Will and Michael to do what they have done on this blog or said all that they said – most of which is just to sound their own horns and provided no educational substance is ridiculous.
So go ahead and take your shots because your opinions don’t matter to me and the quality of life my son is able to have.
After being on psych drug cocktails for 20 years for “supposed” Bipolar, I elected to try EMPower Plus as the psych drugs left me constantly depressed and very unwell physically with excess weight and low energy. I was always on at least one anti-depressant, one anti-psychotic, a mood stabilizer and a benzodiazepine. These drugs were frequently being switched around by psychiatrists who were seeking the illusive magic solution to my continuous state of ill-being. I ended up on disability because the drugs made me worse than my original condition and I could not longer work. I finally realized that the p-drugs were not helping my quality of life at all. This slowness of self-realization is not my fault as I was too drugged to see what was happening to me. I was spell bound and believed the lie that I was treatment resistant. One of the drug combo’s left me sleeping 18 hours a day and the other 6 hours I barely functioned. I was left in that drugged stupor for 7 years. Thanks a lot!!!
On the phone, the True Hope support staff guided me thru a taper off 4 drugs in one year. Doing that threw my psyche and body into a horror state of shock and awe and torment. They said that the supplement replaced the medication … that is a big fat load of crap. I don’t know why I believed them but True Hope were really all I had at the time. I do feel that they took advantage of my innocent and trusting nature. They kept telling me that the withdrawal would take a year and then I’d feel great. Eventually they told me that “in my case” it would take 5 years to heal. Thanks a lot!!!
Six years later, my body is still healing from the quick taper method they used on me and my brain is still in shock from all that has transpired. I had to sell my home and move in with a relative so that I could remain alive. I lost a great deal financially to do this. I am not sure whether the brain injury and the nerve pain I have is from the psych drugs or from the quick taper method. I can say that EMPower Plus never helped at all but made things much worse, revving up a very sensitized and damaged central nervous system.
I am glad that I am med free but wow, have I ever paid a serious price for this freedom. I never should have been on drugs in the first place and feel very let down by a medical system that you go to for help and they just make everything so much worse. It’s a miracle that I am alive. When one elects to go off pharmaceuticals, they also come up against the medical system that pushes the “pill for every ill” agenda. You have to be very strong and determined to achieve the goal that I have.
The internet is full of folks that are going off psych drugs because a lot of people are discovering how harmful the psych drugs really are and many were not helped by them, just like me. There are several online forums to help guide people thru tapers and get off “legal” mind altering drugs. In my opinion, it is not necessary to take vitamins or supplements but to eat very healthy to heal the body. I also suggest a yoga and meditation practice to heal the soul. Going off psychiatric drugs is serious business.
May all beings be free. May all beings be happy. May the world one day see the end of psychiatric labels and the brain disabling treatments used by psychiatry. Thank you for reading what I have to say.
I rather deal with RX antidepressants (side effect)SUICIDE , BIG PHARMA are the biggest salesman on earth:-X
I think the oil companies are. Still my car won’t run on majik fuel from True-death. Big parma also makes drugs for pain hundreds of times stronger then heroin. They work great for pain. Of course they also sell crap that does more harm then and hugh amounts of drugs that do nothing at all. Just like true-death. Just because much of it is b.s. if not most doesn’t mean you throw it all in the trash.
A chemical is a chemical. It doesn’t have a mind or an agenda.
LoL, just dropped in to flame your comment.
Pharmaceutical companies ARE NOT making anything stronger than heroin. You got your info mixed up Mr. Educated!
If they were there wouldn’t be so many addicts down 3rd and Pike downtown Seattle!
Yet another wasted, useless and very sophomoric comment!
Fentanyl is dozens of times stronger then pure 100 pharmaceutical grade heroin and it is used everyday. Some Bently compounds are thousands of times more potent then heroin. Go back to school if you wish to piss in the tall grass with the big boys. If you only knew a little about chemistry or anything else you could manufacture your own and maybe put them in Tru-death. Your making it all to easy James. Go back to school and start with chemistrisy 101. WN
Will,
Congratulations! A verifiable fact you stated. Fentanyl is stronger. But so is a train. If that’s what a person must use to ease the pain.
I really would like to see this dead horse back on track. Only because anyone that is reading this to make an informed decision is kinda screwed by this nonsensical revolving door of insults.
There are multiple testimonies of the effectiveness of true hope products. Regardless of what you say, it appears to help some people. “What works for one, doesn’t necessarily work for all.”
EMPower Plus did not work for me. It gave me a s#!+ ton of energy with its 16,000% of the dv of b12. Hell, I’ve had just as much benefit from 25,000mg of B12 daily. But it gets to be too much.
If I were going to have a point with this it’d be this:
EVERY SINGLE PERSON LOOKING FOR A SOLUTION. THAT LEADS THEM HERE. QUESTION WHAT NEEDS TO CHANGE IN YOUR LIFE BEFORE STARTING YOUR QUEST BY READING A BUNCH OF NONSENSE BY (yours truly) AND OUR BI-POLAR JEDI FRIEND WILL NIST.
“To each is own, find YOUR peace.” Trust noone until you can trust yourself first. Nothing is accomplished from a lack of confidence. Life is waiting, go live it and don’t let it hold you back.
Lastly Will, I hope the best for you. Despite how much I’d like to say nasty things, I won’t. Whatever you need, I hope you find it. Before it takes more of a toll on you.
A walk in the sun is better medicine than anything man can offer.
Peace
I want understant when of use date exp box (226) of Truehope capsuls serial number 0611004?
My husband was on the truehope em power plus for two years for dealing with OCD. We were both really excited when we discovered this product, finally a holistic/Natural approach to help mental illness. But once we got into the program about 6 months things started going a little weird. First of all they told us to be monitored by a Naturopath and gave us a specific name of one they said they worked with but when we actually got to see this naturopath she told us this product was not any good, so as you can guess we left the appointment completely confused. We called truehope and they said they had no idea why she would say that. Then the side effects as my husband came off his medication was horrendous! But no matter what the help line told us it would only get better, but it continued to get worse. The more we called for help and support the more annoyed they got (I’m talking only once sometimes twice a week). We began to lose hope, it was then we found a group of people in our area who had had similar experience and a couple who had to be hospitalized. We began to think we’d made a huge mistake. Then at about a year in my husband started having a lot of trouble with what they call “protracted with-drawl.” He would call in and they’d tell him over and over, “it’s just with drawl.”, no doctor backing up their claims – nothing. None of the help line people had medical/naturopath training and most of the time had no answers.General practitioners refused to help us because it was a natural product and not a pharmaceutical (sad but true). Soon after we learned of the split between the two owners and that Dave Hardy had spit to start his own company because he believed that the truehope company was only in it for the money. So we made the decision to switch to Nutritek, which is a very similar product but in our opinion much better. It too however only worked for a short time until my husband ended up in the hospital for months at a time getting back onto pharmaceutical medications. It was very very very difficult on us, physically, financially, emotionally, mentally. It tore two and a half years of our life away.
Now I do know people with mild mental illness that this product has helped such as mild to moderate depression, mild to moderate anxiety, and in some people it may be good for more serious illnesses I think it depends on the person. I just warn you please please please be very weary before you go on one of their products. Find a naturopath whom is willing to work with you. Always find a medical opinion.
Michael, should you take this one or should I. Or should we both give in completely and end it right now. WN
I’m really surprised that anyone would put so much effort into bashing this product or company. I take it that you (the author) have suffered from bipolar disorder, tried it for the recommended 2-3 months and have used their tech support and still did not get your desired results? That should be okay…it happens all the time with pharmaceuticals, only with severe side effects. Maybe the cause of YOUR symptoms is not exactly the same as others’. Try Lithium Orotate instead. So, why bash a company that has 200,000 satisfied clients rather than putting your energy into finding what heals you personally? If this is a scam, well they won’t get repeat business, right? and there will be so many complaints from dissatisfied customers, they will put themselves out of business. If it is a placebo and it works, well….great! That is better results than Zoloft, Risperdol, Lithium and without the dangerous side effects. If I was suffering, I would not care what took away the pain, as long as I found relief. I am recommending this product for a friend.
Will Nist, [moderated] As a 56 year old woman who rarely swears, that is saying a lot. Why don’t you go play on the BDSM websites where you belong. Crawl back into your filthy little hole, take up your remote control and leave the rest of the world to survive without your constant stream of verbal diarrhea.
Hi Paula,
I understand that you may be upset with another commenter, and I’ve allowed a little latitude this once, but I don’t appreciate personal attacks. Please refrain from calling others names and attacking them.
The commenting rules can be found here: https://natashatracy.com/bipolar-burble-blog-commenting-rule/
Thank you.
– Natasha Tracy
Please, let if you can Paula’s comment stand in full. You may moderate mine as you already have done so fairly in the past. I wont respond to Paula if you post her comment. It’s just that I truly value free speech and even though I have BP I can take any comments anyone wishes to make. Up to you Natasha. Thank you, WN.
This product helped my son enourmously. The support staff was a life saver. All of them were survivors of bipolar disorder or had family members who were on the product and had good results with it. They are not using your information to sell you anything or to secretly spy. Pyscho tropic drugs build up in your fat tissue. EMPower can release them from fat storage and can cause an overdose of drugs into your system. This is why they want the info. They help you taper off the drugs safely and increase your dosage of EMPower slowly. Truehope and it’s employees have great integrity and knowledge and they care.
Paula
Michael and Will Nist.
I agree with you both that this convo has gone on far too long. There has to be something that can be done help you guys.
I fo not endorse meds or supplements to heal a sick mind. I believe that is cured by putting something else into it. Learning new habits, exposing thinking errors and letting go of the anger you feel can help you.
I can’t pretend to know it all, or pretend I have a magical fix for you. But, I can have that desire.
I hate to see people have so much pain and turmoil. That is why I want to help. I grew up in group homes and trust me, you are far from the only ones with these problems. I have seen all of it. Bi-polar, adhd, criminally insane, sexual predators and autistic savants. There is a terrible place where people end up after so many years of trying to escape. That place is in the hell of their own minds.
I hear you speak and I can’t help but feel for you. I know you’re angry, I , know you hurt. I know that you feel like no-one can hardly imagine the hell you live in on a daily basis.
But, I can tell you one thing for sure. Only “YOU” can make the choice to climb out of the abyss you lie in. It is self-chosen. You cannot blame it on someone else. Only you.can make the decision to fo something different.
I don’t think there is a need for this, but I will say it again. I do not work for, nor do I endorse “no hope.” I work for myself and God. I work for my neighbors and fellow man. When I say this please hear me. For it is the most serious of all I have said.
If you need, ask! If I can I will. If you want to talk. I will listen. My hands are in the service of God and his children. My great big unhappy family. Feel free to contact me. If not for anything but to talk. If you don’t want my help, fine. I am simply saying this to you in absolute kindness.
Refuse the ones who try again and again to help you and you refuse God. Refuse God and surely you will find yourself returned to the pit of your despair. I’m not saying grab a bible either. Just that you know my heart is as innocent in this as anyone else that simply wishes you the best of health. And hopes your future is bright.
If anyone cares to talk, please. Contact me. “A closed mouth don’t get fed” jamespatrickreedy@gmail.com – God Bless
Michael, I’m pretty sure I am the only “Shill” on here from Truehope.
Natasha, http://webprod5.hc-sc.gc.ca/lnhpd-bdpsnh/info.do?lang=eng&licence=80000383 is the Health Canada link to our Canadian licence which has been active since 2005. We are licensed and do have approval to sell in Canada.
brandon..
great to know that someone at no hope has come clean
Michael,
I have seen alot of people with the argumentative behavior. Can you honestly say that your feelings aren’t rooted in a long history of professional and self help?
The problem I see here is that there is serious failure to accept the role a person plays in their own treatment. No-one can fix another. It requires a conscious effort and alot of reflection and inner focus.
I am praying for all of you. That you find comfort in the blessings in your life. You are alive, God gave you a brain to learn. One thing that cannot be overlooked is when someone is trying to help you. If you learn it’s not for you, don’t do it.
And most importantly, do not attempt to destroy the name of anyone. By doing this you rob others in your very same position of the chance at peace.
So, while this continues to dissolve in argument, remember. Nothing works for everyone. Lot s of things work for others that won’t work for you. Look to God, he will always give you what you need. When you need it and “eventually” you will find you possess the tools and knowledge to make wise decisions that work to heal YOU!
God bless!
Michael, Let me clarify, Truehope used to have close to 60 employees at its call center. As a result of improved protocols, data collection and analysis and greatly improved micronization and chelation technologies we have been able to reduce our staff to less than 20 while increasing the number of people served at once by more than two fold.
Between all of our divisions and sister companies there are probably some 200,000 people who have or are currently receiving assistance. With a staff of less than 20 we do not have the time or energy to troll this blog or any other for that matter. If someone comments on this blog from Truehope it will be me (Bradford) and will use my name and email address. The only reason why I have kept up with this blog is because it places on our prominent search term results and our clients read it.
In an effort to maintain some semblance of accuracy in the information presented here, I sometimes post a response.
In other words… all the people on here that you guys argue with and accuse of being employees of Truehope are not my employees. They are likely clients or people who know clients of Truehope. With around 200,000 of those in the english speaking world, you are going to run into a few.
Thanks
Bradford
Number 1…. if you guys were so busy what are you doing every month coming to this site to discuss a topic that is at least 9 months old and has been beaten to death.
Number 2…. I could care less about your promoting your magical elixir unless it removes stubborn grease stains when you mash all those little proprietary blended micro nutrients into a paste?
NUmber 3… dont you see that every time you post on here you look morel and more like a fool? 9 months later you people still wont stop.
Number 4… We call staff reductions in AMerica layoffs….
Number 5– I know you love keeping this conversation going but I will tell you now. I no longer will talk about no hope nor talk to you nor any of the people you still have left on the sinking ship that keep on posting on a 9 month old topic …..
Michael,
As long as your mouth is open someone is going to keep trying to stick something in it. A foot may do you good!
Best wishes friend.
Just keep your ears open Michael and you’ll have no problems. WN
Hey there Will,
How are you.. Its been a real struggle for me but isnt it for everyone with our affliction. How is life treating you? Always good to see your name on my email notifications from Natasha. The no hope people just wont let go. I suggest that we never respond to then again and let this thread die.. Its 9 months old. Enough is enough.. wouldn’t you agree.
To: Michael. Same here always good to here from you. Feel like not just bi-polar and PA have much in common. Can never tell though.
Hard for me to make up my mind on people as the “no hope” and correctly said by the way and other types like these.
If people had read “Mein Kampf” and writings from other nut jobs instead of ignoring them maybe they could have been stopped. Maybe not. On the other hand giving undue attention to fools and con- artists can give them attention they do not need. The harm is really only to those who are bit gullible (which are many) but quite innocent and ill people and their loved ones.
This must I think be played by ear, but don’t think I’ll be wasting my time much replying to bad and manipulative “business people” (very loose here).
Just goes to show you evil is still with us. Alive and well. Want your driveway sealed, I think they may do that also. WN
Yes, and is their a reason for being able to sell in Canada and not manufacture. Seems someone here is angry at your and Natasha’s questions. Seems the unconditional caring from TH has become confrontational. WN
Can’t wait. Think someone eventually maybe going to jail. Isn’t U.S./Canada extradition still strong. Or am I mistaken?? Just saying. I know True hope is the only true way. Like so many others who have made that claim in so many other ways. WN
My mistake.
That’s interesting because it provides more information on what’s actually in the product than any other source I’ve seen.
– Natasha Tracy
Me too. Please tell us more.
It has been about eight years since I finally was able to come off Zoloft after many years, thanks to Truehope.com. Key to my being able to do so were those people on the phone, many of them trained volunteers with family members who have been helped by Truehope. When I freaked out because of the electrical zap on my scalp or some other symptoms, I called the support line, and someone always helped me. It wasn’t psycho-babble talk. It was information on how to tweak my protocol or how to treat a yeast infection which usually occurs when one is taking lots of supplements, vitamins or antibiotics. The only time anyone from Truehope ever called was in response to my call to the them. I have never received promotional mailers or solcitations from the organization.
Because of what Truehope taught me about the importance of nutritional support for the brain, I have taken no Zoloft for depression and no Zyprexa for mania since I went through the program. In recent years I transitoned to Pro-Thera vitamins, but I would have never gotten to this point of self management without Truehope.
The best medicine we have in the U.S. has come from veterinary medicine, and that is from where the idea for treating human behaviior with micro-nustrients came. (The exception to this has been the treatment of schizophrenia.)
Also, Michael, who commented that Truehope nutrients are no better than those from CVS, does not know what he’s talking about. Canada has a much stricter policy on the manufacturing of vitamins and other supplements than the U.S. Most people knowledgable about alternative treatments know this.
Terry,
Those nutrients aren’t made in Canada – they are made in the US. I highly doubt Canada would allow their production here. They also do not have a registration number in Canada and thus do not follow Canada’s stricter guidelines.
– Natasha Tracy
Canada is where this product originated. Have you ever read Autumn Stringam’s book? How and why this product was developed? And as for your comment about them not having a registration # is Canada. They have since 2005. http://webprod5.hc-sc.gc.ca/lnhpd-bdpsnh/info.do?lang=eng&licence=80000383
As for me being anything other than a customer of True Hope. I assure you I am not.. My daughter and I are in the process of discovering what this formulation can do for her. So far so good!. And this is after 9 ect treatments that worked very and I underline very limited results. As for anyone who says to think yourself well or trust god to make you well. Has obviously not dealt with real depression issues.
Sincerely,
Dorothy
I dont know what I am talking about? Whats your extension number at no hope? Put the two bottles together and see for yourselves. Yes folks we have another shill from no hope. They just wont let go. % years from now they will still be posting on this subject.
Question?
How many of you have been through years of treatment and medications without finding benefit in them?
How many of you have gone through those years and found that medicine saved your life and made it possible to function?
James
Personally, I went through meds for about 25 years. Nothing worked. So, as a result. I don’t trust diagnosis.
I was in an adult group home with.a guy who heard and talked to voices. Amazingly enough, one of the best treatments for this is to not talk back. We all have inner voices. It’s how we coach ourselves and reinforce memory.
Simple point. “Disorder” can be defined as “something out of place or handled inappropriately. If you don’t like the results of your disorder, don’t do it. Period. It takes great effort to do this, keep trying.
Recognize that something like Tourette’s is not controllable. So it’s classified a “syndrome.” Which indicates it is something that can go away given time. Most manifestations of Tourette’s disappear into adulthood. Although the tics can change into form that is consciously controlled. e.g. foot tapping, or tapping fingers.
At what point does a person “truly” need chemical help. Over the counter is just unregulated. It is still a prescription for a solution to a problem with a specific need. Could the prescription needed actually be a change in behavior?
James
I’m not pushing anything Will. And for you to say what you have said about my daughter is low. Sounds like a troll.if I ever heard one. Flame me all you want. And I wish it was a figment of my imagination.
My point is and will remain the same. Get off your ass, help yourself and listen to the person that made the product. They know more about it than some angry juvenile.
You may struggle with the reason I put that in there, but there was a time that I thought I was do mentally ill I would suffer forever. But even the death of my daughter can’t make me fall off the wagon.
You obviously don’t want help, otherwise you would actually do what I asked. LOOK IT UP, FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF. I have left contact info if you choose to use it. But then again you seem like someone who gets mad at his shoelaces for tripping on them, instead of taking responsibility for being the reason your knot failed.
Don’t be a jerk. We are supposed to be in this together.
James Reedy
It is impossible to insult your kid if she doesn’t exist. If she does I said absolutely nothing about her. I said YOU are wrong using a tragedy to gain sympathy from very sick people to take their scarce resources to buy placebos or worse to treat real diseases.
You, I and all know the game and what the troll/flame comment is about. Make a false claim using emotion get honestly called on it by someone not playing then push blame on the one not falling for it.
I do much about my illness I don’t take voodoo pills or listen to voodoo psychology.
That’s all I’ll say “James” as I don’t wan’t to anger Natasha.
You’ll hear no more from me. Unless of course you create another alias and I don’t know it’s you.
If you really do have a daughter that was murdered I don’t like murder so I feel sorry for her and anyone who cared for her. For you I must honestly say I don’t. I don’t think people who do what you do can love. That’s not an insult it’s just my opinion and what most people would agree with.
You sir are starting to sound silly. I hope your illness isn’t so bad that you argue in front of a mirror about who is looking back at you.
Go to facebook and look me up. I posted a special picture for you!
James Reedy
Wil, I hope you find peace in your soul; everyone deserves kindness and compassion, the depth of our character is reflected in the way we treat others. God bless you.
Those who use known false hope and raid any savings of a very ill person deserve no kindness or compassion at all. They deserve to be treated with extreme prejudice and punished and quickly exposed for what they are. Predators. The sick and weak do deserve love and compassion. The strong who abuse the weak deserve to be treated as enemies of all forms of life. The only thing they deserve is humane treatment in jail. I’m not talking to you as I’m sure you don’t do that, this is just a general comment.
Most who know me would say I have a very good character. I actually help people I can and don’t make not only empty but insincere well wishes from pretend men who live in the clouds.
A con-man who extorts money from the ill and promises paradise in the clouds is not a man with character. It’s a man claiming to have it and hoping others will buy it. A true man of character speaks the truth not what people want to hear. WN
By the way! If anyone needs or wants to talk about issues or what to do about getting the right kind of help. Look me up on Facebook. I will be more than happy to be of any help I can.
Like I said before I have many years of personal experience in this. I’m not claiming perfection but I work extra hard to help those in need. I start school this fall to get my degree in psychology. Honestly I think the field needs more of us with personal experience and deep commitment.
I look forward to hearing from some of you.
Be well,
James Reedy father of Serenity Jade Reedy. Murdered by sex offender at 9-months.
What does an imaginary murder by an imaginary sex offender (personally I would call a murderer a murderer and not a sex offender). I suppose those things are not too important to you. What does any of than anyway
have to do with this sham bs product (vitamin mix) crap your pushing.
If you really did experience such a tragic event in your life (though don’t think actual non-sociopaths would use that event to sell useless products to very ill people) you wouldn’t use it as a tool to push this crap. I may be redundant here but WOW. I and most other actually humans really find it hard to believe “people” like you actually can breath the same air as us and not immediately suffocate. I suppose you hug your money at night, though I’m guessing as well as being a con-man you are also broke as your ability’s to play the con due to a suspected low ability to think is suspect. I suggest you join Kevin T. though I am sure (or maybe not) that he is a better con then you are. Try playing the long game and gather more information first.
It really is hard to believe those like you are human. Would love to get you hooked up to a few machines and see how that frontal cortex works. WN
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine/2012/09/10-surprising-dangers-of-vitamins-and-supplements/index.htm
Maybe this will help appease you.
I do not endorse taking anyting to help a person. Meds almost killed me when I was a kid. I spent a month in the hospital after being sick for more than a year. Ultimately after trying the vast majority of medications, nothing helped.
Say what you will about what I choose to say to make a point. It doesn’t bother me. I have been different than most people for a very long time. I have been hooked up to just about every machine you could possibly think of. The only thing that has made any sense as far as diagnosis goes is that I have epilepsy. As a result of a TBI in 2007. I also have a rare personality type. Myers and Briggs personality test. INFJ 1;100,000 are like me.
To top it off. If there was a way to post photographs on here I would post a shot of the IQ test I took in 2009. Administered by a psychiatrist to evaluate my ability to work for my workers comp case. Test score of 139. 98th percentile of the population. I t states that I should be working as a physician, engineer, psychiatrist or scientist. THAT MEANS I AM SMARTER THAN 98% of people.
In case you need a helping hand in getting the point. I am here to share experience and knowledge based on personal experience. I am not here to slam or berate anyone. Unless you make it a point to go around picking fights with people who are only trying to help. I would caution you to keep some of your personal feelings about what you see when you read something to yourself.
Just for the sake of stoping your claims of imaginative role playing. Please read and be courteous to a person who truly has gone through more than even the magnificent you can proclaim. And yes, I am quite agitated that you would say what you did. It is quite upsetting. If anything I use this experience to open peoples eyes to the reality around them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2ciRthT9aY
Take care, be well
James Reedy
Visit our Facebook groups “Justice for Serenity” and “Convict Jose Luis Aguilar”
Hey, Will, I stumbled onto this blog today after reading about the death of the child with meningitis in March. I followed up on Mr James Reedy and his facebook group tells a different story entirely about this little girl. Serenity, he alleges on his page, was murdered by her mother, also, in the news article he posted, the little girl has a different last name, and died a crib death at the age of two. What kind of sicko makes up stories about a dead little girl? Anyway take care.
First of all I want to state my experience. I have seen doctors and mental health professionals for the last 32 years. I was a guinea pig in the golden age of psychotropic medications. I grew up in group homes. Spent many stays in mental hospitals. I have done it and seen it. Lived with it, by it and because of it.
It’s easy to badmouth someone trying to help. Cause they will respond and always be there to help. This opens the door for temporary validation that your rant is heard. Mental sciences are extremely complex and vary greatly from person to person. There is a reason that in psychiatry there is a general rule to not prescribe medications until a person is free from other drugs for 6 months. Understand that this period is not only to ensure minimal side effects it is also designed to evaluate your commitment to following treatment recommendations.
I do not currently take the EMPowerplus, but I did for a period of time. The only problem I found with it was that in the beginning phase of the program is that initially it is quite a kick in the pants. 6 capsules 3 times a day. Gets you out of your seat. And the initial feeling is more synthetic than natural.
HOWEVER, one must note that all medications and supplements take time to settle into the bodies chemistry. Once this happens the dosage is cut greatly. By doing this there is a kind of nutritional reset that happens as your body levels out.
Before attacking someone I suggest that you close your mouth and open your ears. When you are given suggestions and directions by a person who is specifically focused on helping you, LISTEN TO THEM. Someone who designs and makes something, knows more about it than you do.
Personally I would suggest trying to live without meds or supplements while going through cognitive behavioral therapy. Or trauma focused cognitive behavioral therapy. While you do this be focused on one thing. YOU! A person will never know what help they can benefit from without first learning to live As-is, who you are as you are. When you learn this you will be able to accept help.
There are more things you can do for yourself than anyone or anything can top.
Make a decision to be happy, and just do it. It’s a tough fight, but believe me. I have seen more pain than most can imagine. I am still here and I take ZERO meds.
If I could afford the EMPower plus I would jump on it. Trust me, it can work if you let it.
Thank you for reading and I wish you all well.
James Reedy
Give it up Brad, James or whoever you are or are pretending to be today. Please polish you marketing and propaganda skills a little more before returning here.
Any publicity is good publicity for you and your crew I suppose. Why not saw off your horns and do something honest and productive. I’m sure if you get a psychology degree it will only be to use it to take advantage of others more then you already are. Try some honesty it feels good and don’t mistake people with mental illness as ignorant. Your lame prefacing of your lame claims and false experiences aren’t convincing.
Your a very sad excuse for a human being. WN
Will,
Just checking in with you. I am still hanging on.. Its been tough going.. I am cycling far too often as in ever y day. I hope all is well with you. I cant believe this truehope fiasco keeps on rearing its head… I wont comment on it.. Be well.
Doing ok for now Michael. Actually got work done on my car today. Something I used to love doing but find almost impossible to do these days. My PCP has me a new drug that really has helped me a bit. No lie it really has been and I’m amazed. Still more bad days then good and it’s certainly know miracle drug but it helps. Problem is I think it may be draining some energy and may be making my hair fall out. I’m going to look into Propecia(sp) or maybe Rogaine.
Be as well as you can and fight as long as you can.
Get some help dude, leave me alone. Your posts are worthless.
James Reedy
Get some help dude, leave me alone. To hell with true hope. To.hell with your posts. [moderated]
I hope you realize how crazy you sound by continuously claiming I am someone else. I’m sorry your life has been this way that you feel the need to be so insulting. If this is how you respond to people trying to be helpful then I hope you get whatever you are gonna get soon. People here need more than accusatory arguing.
Vitamins or meds will help noone! You have to help yourself.
James Reedy
Okay guys, it’s time to bring this up to a civil level of discourse. As I say in the commenting rules – no personal attacks. They are not how reasonable people disagree. Please try to have discussion on the subject and not attack each other or I will moderate you out.
Thanks.
– Natasha Tracy
Its amazing how the truehope blog entry never dies. Its a mystery to me :)
I had to respond to “James” Natasha and did it the best I could to be honest but not insulting. I’ll reply to him no more. WN
Anyone want to start a lawsuit with me? We will win
I have tried the true hope pills, I have 5 bottles in the house still. I have a parent who suffers from Bi-polar, parent didn’t want to take even 1 pill. So other parent and myself have these pills in the house. I take them occasionally if I feel I need a reset.. lol. They make me very tired the next day, and feel partly drug-ed up. I don’t have bi-polar… and can’t say it works or doesn’t work, but I know as a stable individual who, takes them for a vitamin pill, they knock me off my feet for the next day.. Take that information for what it’s worth.
Dirty.
Good try Dirty, shouldn’t even have responded, but couldn’t resist the bs. Now the the discussion will continue but really I couldn’t resist.
Will.. what do you mean “Good try”… you mean “Good try” describing a product that I have used and my experience with it, or a sarcastic “Good try” in that I haven’t used said product? Regardless, I give the truth and my experience with True Hope EM Plus pills. I will sell you a bottle if you like, that aren’t getting used at my house.. just sitting around. A fool takes offence when none is intended, I could care less about EM Power and the politics that seem to be on here concerning the product; just stating my experience.
Dirty.
I was diagnosed in 1982. I quit taking all meds, after various horrendous side effects.
Except for divalproex.
Impotence, incredible weight gain, loss of taste, inability to swallow, were just some of my side effects.
I’ve always thought that bipolar people are nothing but lab rats to these doctors and pill companies.
For me, the bipolar is something that has a life all its own.
So, they put me on disability.
I stay to myself. I don’t subject myself to pressure.
I don’t handle pressure well.
But after reading about Truehope, I concluded this.
When something is too good to be true, it usually isn’t “true”.
First time I have ever seen anything on the internet with rare negative reviews. Come on now I searched in depth and couldn’t find much dirt on this. The obvious is that it’s too good to be true and everything has negative feedback in someway they did a good job hiding it
-Will Nist / Micheal,
I keep reading your statements on here and I have to wonder about your motives and / or your ability to use basic reasoning.
Yes we at Truehope have two completed double blind studies and some 22 other publications in other reputable journals. This does not make us bad people or “Con Men”. It means our “stuff” works and that it has gotten the attention of a lot of scientists.
Yes, we have more documented science behind what we do than any pharmaceutical company and any other class of psych meds. This does not equate us to the roman catholic church or any other for that matter. It just simply means that we have improved on processes and treatments that have been studied and used safely for a lot longer than any of the designer drugs that are made by the large pharmaceutical companies.
Would it surprise you to know that almost all the vitamins sold it the world today are made by pharmaceutical companies that also make drugs? All we do is put them in the proper ratios, mix in the right minerals and amino acids and then improve their absorption.
I suspect you are on these message boards because you want a voice in a world that probably is pretty harsh to you. There are better ways of being heard. Truehope has though its various products and programs assisted hundreds of thousands of people. With respect to our online and call center support services, we primarily service the acutely ill. People who make judgments and then publicize them, without any knowledge of what we do or why, cause people to delay getting help when their “traditional options” have run dry. As a result, many of the clients we receive are at the end of their rope and see us as a last ditch attempt.
At Truehope I deal with all of the customer support issues that are above the pay grade of the support staff supervisors. This includes refunding the cost of orders to families who attempted to get their loved ones on our program, sometimes the very day that they took their lives. Obviously many of these families knew that their loved one was at the end of the rope. Most have been through the wringer when it comes to the gauntlet of meds they have tried. When we do get to people on time, our trained staff watch for these types of issues and even alert the authorities when things go wrong. I have never seen one person suicide, seriously hurt themselves or others, while they were complaint with our program and their doctor. Not one.
On the other hand I have worked with many peoples families who have had to plan funerals because they were influenced by people who may have been well intentioned, but have been talking out of their posteriors. Simply put, Truehope is dedicated to helping people and you, whether you know it or not are influencing people into situations that cause them harm.
The fact that Truehope won its court case against the best lawyers the Canadian government had, and that they were told if they withdrew support from their clients they would be criminally liable, sets their program apart from the rest. The fact that Truehope products have shown positive results in 24 medical journal publications from independent researchers at 13 universities around the world proves efficacy.
You can go on all day saying that we are dangerous and a scam without ever looking at the facts. That’s fine. Some people can’t control the verbal diarrhea that flows from their mouths and I’m not going to fault you for it. However, until you have actually been on the program and used all of the tools provided, you will not have an inside knowledge of anything about the Truehope program and you should really find some other topic to rant on where peoples lives aren’t at stake.
Natasha’s experience with Truehope could be compared to a person paying for a Ford Truck and only leaving with the tires. She paid for the whole program and then took a bottle of pills without getting instructions on how to use them properly. Refusing to receive and follow the instructions on a customized program that has tens of thousands of variables, and then complaining when it does not go your way is like driving blind folded and then blaming your car for the accident.
Anyway, what I am saying is that people who attempt to influence others without having a clue about what they are talking about, hurt people. I know you probably need to be validated, and Michael probably does a good job of that for you, but this is just not the way to do it. Maybe going for a walk with Michael at a park or talking over dinner would be the better option.
Bradford, You keep reading my statement.?. I haven’t made a statement since I said I could care less. Guess what Brad, I still could care less.
I love your statement Brad “Anyway, what I am saying is that people who attempt to influence others without having a clue about what they are talking about, hurt people.” Couldnt agree more, so why are you. fly away.. I have never used the word troll before and I wont . I rather use herpes because just when I thought we got rid of you, you come back, just like herpes of which Nohope has a cure for also I presume. See yah Brad.. Time to go eat some chocolate pudding and watch a movie.
OK, Bradford, Michael, and everyone else, you can consider this an official warning to heighten the level of dialogue, please. As per the commenting rules, no name calling is allowed and trading insults, however witty you may feel they are, is best done elsewhere.
– Natasha Tracy
May I at least ask who the “researcher is”. What “Scientific researcher hides himself, most if not all who gain such insights wish the whole world to know, in the case of this man should he not be presented with the Nobel Prize in Medicine.” He previously stated he had reliable contact information I could get from you, I as well believe he has recently contacted you in regard to his own perceived victim hood of insults and libel”. No need to respond your silence on the matter will be considered a yes. These types who as always instill fear in others for reason I and I believe others know why. I hope this comment is acceptable, if not please contact me personally with better guideline as well as this mans contact information and the credentials he claims to have. I seriously will nominate him for the Nobel Prize if his research pans out. No person insults are meant here one way or another. I wish only to have his information and his credentials only
Please tell me Natasha this as well applies to false claims by non-reputable vitamin companies making claims in the U.S. and elsewhere. If these scientists are not ready to disclose their names then are they not to be considered anymore reliable them me if I make claims of anything I wish?
-Will,
In answer to your question about the researcher, if you go to truehope .com and click on the research tab you will find a detailed list of all of the research and researchers who have done research on empower. If you have a hard time finding it, you may call the office and someone there can help you or you may even ask for me. I’m not always available but am pretty good at returning calls if they are missed.
And yes, the good people who do behavioral science studies at any of these universities would likely be very grateful if they were nominated for a Nobel Prize.
I don’t like your veiled threats. Especially those who would stop those on this blog and others and/or with mental illness,etc. from openly discussing there problems here or in other forums. I.E. your threats to imprison and institutionalize them. See prospective customers, the treats previously made!! The extent of your inhumanity in the search of money (in your case) the Canadian Dollar is beyond the comprehension of a decent human being. On my upcoming trip to see my friend in Fairbanks,AK., Ill be visiting your area. Per your request. Be ready ill be reporting what I see.
P.S. I’ll be stopping in Lethbridge on the way. Stars beautiful there at night.
I use True Hope. I’m bipolar I and ADHD. I’m not happy about the price. I’m thankful for the healing it has done for my brain. I’m ready to bashed an smeared now by people from this page now.
All I can say is I’ve taken black box warning drugs, nasty and unproven stuff supplied by my doctor and insurance…unproven stuff. I asked my psychiatrist. It’s not proven and he claims anti psychotics are not good for the brain. Well why are we bashing something natural, unproven (there are more arrows proving them correct) than Abilify for alcoholism, depression adjunct, bipolar etc. That bipolar medication is not nice stuff for me. Oh the weight gain from them…geesh. Even if proven they don’t work for long because it’s a xenobiotic. You have to cycle them and that is what doing back to the doc is all about. Think about it, we BP people take this then many months later we are taking that then other other and we are hick=uping all the way with symptoms. Wake up and face it, alternatives do exist and I’m telling you it works for me. If you have paranoid thoughts and anger in your life like I did and oh how outward I projected it keep trying other things like what is done in the doctor office with all those fancy ‘medications’ that have NO PROOF. Ya know,I didn’t know how paranoid I was till I took True Hope; I would of taken you to the mat if you said such a thing to me back then.
I’m thankful to fatty fish oils, amino acids, I need to take choline bitartrate ( their pc isn’t strong enough for my racing thoughts – in addition their laypeople told me about it and boy and I thankful. I didn’t know I had it so bad because I had it all my life. I just cried the first few days. No anti psychotic, no mood stabilizer ever helped like my CB..Never found it on the net too. I go to CHADD meetings and they are lay people and they have been more helpful in educating me. The doctors I’ve been been with is under a time crunch and never went into an proof of anything with me. I know everyone else has slick doctors that do better. ok that’s the way it is when I go.
Have you ever looked into aminos, nootropic stacks, helping BP disorder on other web pages than TH. You have to beat them down too with their lack of proof. Please if your really bipolar try something first. That’s what I did. I believed in the amino acid part then stingy me was willing to try the PC and then I think I bought the EMP. I bought my PC from amazon in granular form (cheep and messy in the sink) When I got the EMP It came just in time because I was in a nasty mixed episode. I wish you see my symptoms happening like the impulsive talking coming out of my mouth. The mania kicking in the shivers of paranoia, anxiety then I take CB, EMP, Aminos, Fish Oils and it all changes. I don’t know how else to prove it to you. My sister didn’t believe me and she saw how inositol stops the shaking in the hands ( I hated having that problem for years…hiding my hands) Perhaps if you witnessed the before and after in someone that might help.
Bipolar is a battle I still don’t have magic days but so much more level, ever in my life! When I get symptoms I call TH they are the best and yes expensive tool in my box to battle this very nasty disease. Please take me without suspension. I swear I’m real and a kind person with 4 kids 2 wiith mental illness too… It’s a nasty disease of stigma. Please if you have the disease try something small GABA, PC, something for certain symptoms. Remember, again the doctors slick newly remodeled mod office doesn’t have better PROOF answers. Infact for me I choose this method. Unfortunately I have yet to meet a person with bipolar that is a kind open person. Gosh we have to admit being bipolar comes with a cunning personality pretty easily. Are you willing to witness someone in symptoms take a ‘no proof’ method and see the change.
I responded in depth to the assertions that you people made about your scam vitamin therapies on this blog. I asked in depth questions that were answered only with other questions by so called experts at your company who should know the answers to such. Your proofs deserve no response as they make no real scientific or other assertions that deserve any response. You are scam artist who even preface your arguments to discredit reasonable responses to your claims. Be gone con-men. You are not wanted here.
Strange how Lizbot and Bradley come out of the woodwork simultaniously. From a post that was made weeks ago in support of the same vitamin deal.
Will,
you are correct. What offends me as that I am real sick and I dont need to be told I need to be validated and hurt people. I am also very sensitive to personal attacks to us especially after we have stopped talking about it. Talk about Stigma. A representative of the company should know better.
Michael, even though I have this terrible illness I am thinking about a full out attack upon these people as they appear to need the last word like a needy child does on all. I must make my decision and if I do I will be unrelenting especially in regard to there sales in the U.S. They don’t merit it but they do deserve it. Hopefully I may ask for a little assigned research help from you if need be. Only if you can and if you wish. Thank you anyway for caring about your fellow sufferers and the human race in general and not being a whore to money and easy lies to the sickest of the sick. Thanks, Will.
Will,
I say this with a sigh… You can’t threaten people. Its not ok. If I could talk to you in person I would not have to post this but I really feel that you need to understand our position at Truehope. As a policy if there is any indication that a person is a danger to themselves or others we have to call it in. Also, if a person is a legitimate danger to themselves or others we refer them back to their attending physician. This is one of the ways we ensure that our clients have the greatest possible chance of overcoming the tough situations that they sometimes find themselves in. Its kind of a buddy program.
At Truehope, clients typically are assigned to one individual support person who helps them find what will work for them and monitors their progress and any possible risks.
That being said, we are also at arms length from our clients and are often unable to assess the seriousness of a threat. Its for this reason that if there is any doubt in the support persons mind, we “call” any kind of threat in to the authorities that could possibly result in violence to ones self or others. I don’t know you from Adam. I don’t know your physician. I have no reason to think that you would not act in a violent fashion.
You should call me tomorrow and we can talk this through. You can vent to me and maybe I can answer some of your questions. My number is 888-878-3467. Ask for Brad and let them know I asked you to call. I’ll make sure they let the call through.
We are out here helping anyone we can. There is no conspiracy or scam, just a lot of people who have embraced the program and done well on it.
As far as this blog seeing an increased number of empower users on it, its because it has crept up on the EMPower search in various engines. You will likely see a lot more activity both from our clients and from my staff in correcting information that they may be relying on. No one is intentionally offending anyone here. Its just the nature of SEO that relates to support based programs. We are pretty protective of our clients and staffs safety and do what we cant to keep them out of harms way. This includes making sure that the information they have is as correct and accurate as possible.
“We” do the same! WN
Boy I need a vacation. My bikes getting antsy.
Mr. Murphy
What public relations firm do you work with.?. I laughed as I read your statement… good doggy.. fetch money..
Glad to see you are still out there Michael. The church ( we all know which one ) tried to beat down Galileo and others even after what the said was obvious to the least informed. In the end they will lost then play their scam in a different way. They even use the language of their enemies ( science and truth ) to attempt to discredit it. Notice the absolute inconsistent, absurd, irrelevant, dishonest, unscientific etc. attempt to avoid the questions I proposed to there “researcher” on his assertions. A scientist who refuses to present his credentials or even his name. How does an intelligent person even respond to the fools who throw around facts which specifics for words and ideas they don’t understand even elementary not to mention specifically make zero sense. Do to Natasha not allowing it I wont again tell you how I would treat such individuals if had immunity from the law, but since I don’t I shall not. This guy I suppose believes in free speech without limit as I do. I’m guessing he believes in It when directed against him and his company ( who he even refuses to identify his true relationship to ) but not the other way around. Please all, I know you already do Michael. Refrain from scientific assertions from those who don’t practice science nor care about the love of science and only money. Give no quarter ask for none. This is my hope for those would abuse the sick. What would you do if someone kicked and floored your eighty year old grandmother at the ATM and robbed her and laughed on the way home. I know what I would do. I them free speech, but not free action. There is a price for that.
These people throw around ” double blind” as if it were the holy grail. When you mention statistics all they do is make referrals to databases of total crap. They chant ” double blind like” OM” or Allah Akbar, etc. Ask what morality is and then look to these people to see what it is not.
Oh the SILLINESS on this blog! So many know it alls attempting to discredit a supplement and accompanying program that has helped thousands upon thousands of people regain what was lost. For many, a game changer, for others not. What everyone here with their big mouths and closed minds is over looking is the fact that this unique supplement has more 3rd party clinical studies on it including the gold standard DOUBLE BLIND PLACEBO CONTROLLED STUDIES. 24 medical journal publications from some of the most prestigious journals in the world. 41 independent researchers, scientists, doctors and a handful of the worlds most renknowned psychiatrists and world class universities ranging from Harvard, Ohio State, Canterbury out of NZ. At this point, this is the most clinically tested and published supplement on the face of the planet. The results noted in the studies place the effectiveness anywhere from 2 – 3 times more effective than Lithium which is the #1 psych treatment on the planet. How can this be argued. Anyone who argues this is coming across as a hard headed, closed minded arse. Im sorry some of you are bitter, edgy and seem to have “PUMA” condition (PANTIES UP MY A@%) but… you simply cant argue these findings with opinion. Argument is kinda over at this point…. This blog is ridiculous and nothing more than venting session.
Jame, I just wanted to say that, at Truehope we recognize that everybody has an opinion. That being said, most opinions are the product of our experiences. Natasha’s opinion is reflective of her experience with Truehope and possibly what others have related to her. I am not saying that Natasha is correct in everything she is saying, but I am saying that I really doubt there is a conspiracy here. There are a few aspects of her experience in this article that I am convinced would change if she embraced the Truehope program and worked with the support team. The truth is that, Truehope has relied it products efficacy and the resulting word of mouth for too long and as such has not had to fine tune communications with our clients like so many others service based companies do. Our primary focus has always been on the support protocols and R&D and not on communications.
We are doing our best at this time to rectify this and become better at helping people understand what the program entails. We encourage people to be patient with us and work with our support staff and the provided symptoms tracking software. Blogs like this, are actually pretty helpful in assisting us in closing gaps and building a better program for our participants.
You obviously are one of our clients or perhaps you know someone who has been helped by our program. Thank you for your support. We look forward to hearing more of your positive opinions and experiences.
Natasha, I was given the task to review the news media coverage of two double blind studies that recently were published on EMPowerplus and I came across your blog. I work at Truehope and would like to clarify a few things.
First of all, the phone calls come for a very good reason. Some 95% of Truehope’s business is a result of word of mouth. We like to help people and we know that if our clients are successful they will spread the word. And they do. It is because of the fact that EMPowerplus works that these calls need to be made. If as we claim often happens, a person using psych meds gets better and they are not informed on what to look for, they may have a serious medication reaction. This reaction would be similar to what would happen if that same person did not need psych meds but took them anyway. In otherwords, it would be like taking a person who is healthy and not medicated and drugging them. Please review the list of side effects for any of the medications that would be in question on rxlist.com. The person would be subject to many of these side effects. The stronger the persons metabolic pathways, the greater the reaction would be. Don’t take my word for it though. Talk to your doctor.
Secondly, Truehope has in its possession the worlds largest and most detailed database of its kind. We have tracked over 90,000 clients through our program. This tracking includes more in depth information than what any doctor or other professional would ever have time to analyze. If you did not use the free support you would be classified and probably were, as a non-compliant program participant. EMPowerplus is a part of our program. The other part involves phone calls, data entry and checkups with our staff to make sure you are doing well and on track. Truehope offers free data tracking of your symptoms, dosages of medications and other substances that may affect your progress on the program. This data is charted and used to work with you and your doctor in identifying risks, factors that limit your ability to get better, and the onset of drug interactions. If you used the free tool you could make your doctors job a lot easier. Much of the database is automated and will warn Truehope staff if you are getting yourself into trouble.
Anyway, I don’t want to beat a dead horse here. Yes Truehope is a business and as such it relies on sales to fund its operations. But… it is classified as a “not for profit business” and at the end of the day really does not retain any type of profit. I promise you that we are not evil and that we do in fact have our clients best interests at heart. If we were evil… we would not offer free support. Especially since this free support costs Truehope millions of dollars every year to maintain. I hope this helps.
-Brad
Please respond to these questions and comments of mine in regard to your assertions and statements as a representative of your company. First to me as a reader, Natasha as the owner of the site and especially all those afflicted individuals who read this blog. First: Please provide contact information and proof of your credentials as an employee of the company. Second: Links and full access to the two double blind studies you mention (including full credentials of all the Drs. and scientists involved in the study as well as footnotes to any studies mentioned as backup for the studies your company did). Second: How you came to the ninety-five percent number of word of mouth vs. other means of how your clients came to you (please provide the research done as well on this). Third: Why you say “as we claim” instead of citing factual information on which psychiatric medications can cause what adverse reactions and which medications may cause these reactions when administered together and the research done in detail about your claims in regard to this. Fourth: The facts and research done to support the, in my opinion absurd assertion that psychiatric medications given to non-psychiatric individuals in any way mimics a person mixing two different medications of any kind. Fifth: What Rx list are you speaking of your own or one made by any reputable individual, corporation, scientist or healthcare professional, etc. please provide details of this list for all of us to review. Sixth: What in the name of Thor are you talking about “The stronger the persons metabolic pathways”. Please, this greatly interests me. Please provide detailed information so I can actually ask my internist and psychiatrist if this makes any sense at all. Seventh: You state that your company has the largest and most detailed database of its kind in the world. What type of database are you speaking of. Please provide links to this database with all it’s details and included statistical analysis. Please provide demographic information of these ninety thousand individuals you speak of both in summary and detail. Further if no human being in the world is capable of interpreting this data you speak of then how are your able to do so. Do you have supernatural powers of some kind. Eighth: Maybe most importantly, do you in anyway sell, distribute,trade,share or otherwise any in part or whole of this information to anyone outside your company for any reason financially or otherwise. This is very sensitive information about very ill people. In short do you sell personal information of these people. If you do or don’t please provide proof and details. Ninth: You say you are not for profit. If so give us the tax registration number of your company so we may look into the validity of this assertion. I can offer if a crooked individual to provide many types of “FREE” advice on anything in return for sensitive and other types of information that I may use to exploit an individual, their family etc. such as selling it to online and other business to profit from not only the information on the illness, but all of it. Finally: Facts not promises as they mean nothing and please explain if you are not for profit and spend millions if free support please explain the source of these millions. Donations. If so please provide the names and numbers and a copy of your tax return. Since you charge money for services this help is not free even if non profit the bottom line is zero so this excess money must have a source. Will Nist.
1st, I am not going to provide you with any personal information about myself. Natasha has my contact information. That should suffice. If you want to talk to someone please feel free to call the support line. 1-888-878-3467.
2nd, You are welcome to go do your own research on the studies and doctors involved. The ADHD / Depression study published Jan 30, 2014 is in The British Journal of Psychiatry this February. It is already up on their site.
in answer to your second 2nd question: We use google analytics to monitor who comes to our program through the web as well as customer polling at the time of sign up. Thais how we know where people are coming from. This is pretty basic stuff.
3rd, “We claim” referred to that fact that we claim people get better on our program and had nothing to do with mixing two medications. Again, feel free to go to rxlist.com, a pharmacy, or your doctor to research you medication questions.
4th, I was talking about un-medicated people reacting to drugs they don’t need and said nothing about mixing medications.
5th, Again, please visit rxlist.com for your medication questions or talk to your doctor or pharmacist.
6th, Let me help you get started on understanding metabolic pathways. The first link is to the Tryptophan pathway. Its probably the simplest of the pathways related to common psychiatric disorders. http://www.genome.jp/kegg-bin/show_pathway?map=map00380&show_description=show The second link http://www.genome.jp is the root of the site and contains more in depth information. If you include your email address in a post I will send you an image that has a list of metabolites required at the various stages of serotonin production.
7th Its a relational database that tracks and analyzes on a daily basis the DSM4 diagnostic criteria for our clients. It also tracks a large number of other criteria related to program function. Statisticians and servers work on this database. Doctors have jobs and would likely spend several hours a day to track and analyze single client files manually. I guess if your doctor only has three or four patients he or she could do the same thing for you. Feel free to read up on studies of the database at Truehope.com under our research tab.
8th We do not share any sensitive information about any of our clients with anyone except those who they have authorized. Ie. their doctors and sometimes family. And no, we do not charge them money for copies of the information.
9th Feel free to look it up. The operating name is Truehope Nutritional Support Ltd. Its an Alberta Canada Company.
10th Truehope is a “not for profit” company, not a charity. Feel free to look up the rules and regulations governing this status at http://volunteeralberta.ab.ca/varc/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/rcvo-howtoincorporate.pdf.
I hope this helps.
-Brad
Empowerplus changed my family’s life in a VERY good way. My sister was in and out of homeless shelters, on big pharm drugs, muliple duis, no direction. She ended up on involuntary hold in the psych ward. They diagnosed her bipolar, depressed & skitzophrenic. Total rock bottom. She lost 3 years of her life. She’s been on empowerplus for two years and I now have my beautiful, smart, stable sister back. THANK GOD. She now holds a great job, has her own flat, has paid off her student loans and credit card debt from her years on the streets, has money in the bank and is a joy to be around. She is calm & stable. Empowerplus truly works. My entire family, myself included, now take it. I feel amazing. Give it a try. We take the powder form and yes one month supply which is one jar costs $65 but at the end of the day, nothing is more important than your health. Shoot, people spend $65 on one dinner. It’s worth every penny. May God bless you on your journey and may your mind be sound! –Stacey–
See what i mean. It works for some people and usually young people with organs that are working well. But some people’s body chemistry cannot handle the pills or they have a very toxic liver and get severe reactions from taking supplements.
It works for some people like this woman’s sister and because of that, I would not discourage anyone from trying it in case it does work for them. I’m not that selfish and crazy to think that just because something didn’t work for me, i’m going to ruin the possibility of it working for someone else.
Who am I to even know if it could help them. IF it does not, there are alternatives out there.
I have people contacting me from truehope that are coming off truehope because of him and very happy with the results of real stability.
Join Alternative Mental Health on facebook – purple and yellow flowers – if you are interested in meeting people who had severe depression or schizophrenia who are being treated by this doctor and other people who met other holistic doctor that worked for them. Truehope participants and sellers are also allowed in the room as, I do not discourage anything that could work for anyone.
either he is out of business or you have the wrong link. and truehope is centrum at 20 times the price.
These specifics Michael are not important to con artists. They are speaking the same language and selling the same crap under different names with different targets to different people.
Will
I have changed my whole view on truehope. I wish them well in all their endeavors. Are they Centrum? No, Are they vitamins with a proprietary blend? Yes. My reason for my 180 turnaround is very simple. I read so many posts from people who say they are bi-polar and they are not. I think bi-polar is the new rage. Seriously. How many times in the past few weeks have I read articles about it. So, If these people think they are bi-polar when scientifically they actually are not and they take whatever truehope offers, and they say they got healed who am I to question it. Just like I read how people who say they are bipolar get cured from homeopathic medicines and herbal formulas and so on and so forth. People say that folate and magnesium and D3 and fish oil have cured them. whom am I to say no way.. I wish all the people at truehope well. They have found their niche. People apparently buy their products and we all have choices. Some choose to and some choose not to. I believe one has to do extensive research on any company that sells products to help us, including Pharma companies, etc. If I would have done more research on the candy my PDocs gave me I would have never have taken them. And it sure cost me in the thousands. I am still where I am living hour by hour with a brain that is damaged from all the poisons I shoved down my throat because some dope dealer with a degree masquerading as a doctor with a degree on his wall told me it would work. I am at my wits end and Will, I am real tired. I will never discuss truehope again because as you know there are some people on this board that are not bi-polar but for whatever reason they think they are and push their own agendas. I have no time for them. I am holding on by my fingertips..Thats so interesting about the internet.. You just have to weed through all the shit and sometimes You will find a morsel of truth spoken by someone who is a real expert. As the great Elvis Costello wrote. Well I used to be disgusted, and now I just trying to be amused. I haven’t been amused in a very long time. Maybe that will help :) Its all good Will. Its all good. Now If you will excuse me I have a nightmare that is waiting for me.
As well Michael they have read most likely about the praise for Natasha and are using this format to promote there various cons. Roaches will find the food where it is. Turn off the lights and they will appear. They are another species only pretending to be human and come out of the woodwork when they think no one is looking.
Michael, so true about bipolar being fashionable. Back in my early 20’s Dr’s like schizophrenia didn’t want to make the diagnosis as they know how lifelong the illness was and how destructive. But of you were diagnosed you were treated by Dr, Psychiatric nurses,etc. in hospitals with respect not given today. It was seen as an emotional disorder. Not one of violence, normally not psychosis, nor of low intelligence if not the opposite. Now its like having AIDS in SF was in the 90’s minus the actual death sentence all the illness it was. It like a hip disease you claim to your friends to get out of going out on the weekend. Then freshly back to work a cheery on monday for work. These people look at the poor homeless MI no differently then a stock broker in ny does when they see them on wall street. Reality will hit these people some day and vitamins will not help. Heart disease, cancer, severe car accident, etc. and these people will forget about vitamins so fast everyones head will spin. You either healthy or a con to believe this stuff. You most certainly do not have bipolar. Like kids with booboo’s wanting a bandaid and ignoring the amputee next to you. Let’s call it the disease of the decade. Sorry also tired. Excuse my writing. Can’t sleep and must do things tomorrow. Screwed again. The fashionable went to bed long ago.
So she had bipolar, depression (no type specified) and schizophrenia. Only three years lost. That’s suspect to begin with. You as well attribute this to a supernatural being. Is it both or one or the other. Two years on vitamins and she is cured? Paid off student loans in two year? Did she get a degree in B.S. Why is you entire family taking it if she is the one with the problem? Is this to increase someones profits and a lie? Do you have a conscience? Is your whole life about money? If you get lung cancer can I visit you in the hospital to see the medications YOU are on. Nothing is more important then your health. Don’t leave it to a con man or woman. Very few people with these illnesses have anywhere near $65.00 (Isn’t flat used in the U.K. where they use pounds?-it’s never used in the U.S., other places maybe I’ll look into). Con artist’s extorting money off the sick do though. Please stop the pleas to god while pushing for money. It’s a little to obvious. Never forget you are not dealing with the mentally challenged here but the emotionally challenged. Big difference. Learn from it and you may stay out of jail.
Will Nist- I’m just telling my story. We are all taking it because as you may know, mental illness runs in my family. My dad’s side has numerous individuals who suffer or who have suffered from various mental illness. EMPowerplus makes us feel good, balanced and sane. You don’t have to criticize my experience with the supplement. Aren’t you happy that my family found a solution? People like you really make me question humankind. Negative naysayers. I will have none of it in my life!
Stacey
Yes, I know mental illness runs in some families. Not mine. I have a very large family and the only one with this illness. Vitamins DO NOT MAKE YOU FEEL well. If you are well and take them you do not have a problem to start with. I don’t criticize you for you experience, just hat I think you are either lying or not sick. Again, vitamins don’t cure mental illness of any kind. They do nothing. Nothing. As to your family if they are happy I am quite happy for them: unless they are selling or profiting from this scam of selling vitamins to others for these very severe illnesses. If that is the case, I hope they suffer severe unrelenting pain on the scale of those they take advantage of. I am a kind, gentle man who loves all in the human race who cares about others in the same way as I do and treat the sick as they would wish to be if they were the one who were sick. To those who prey on the sick I have no compassion and will do my best to see that they are exposed and that nothing good comes their way. I wish them nothing but pain, suffering, poverty,shame and darkness as they deserve. No mercy for the merciless. It’s a black flag situation. Give no mercy ask for none. Negative naysayers shows I think you don’t get it.
Truehope saved my life ten years ago. I was a complete psychotic mess with a diagnosis of schizoaffective bipolar type and PSTD. I tried true hope after i saw my gf fully recover from Bipolar I and go back to work and off disability. She went back to teaching and never had to see a psychiatrist again.
I tried it and got the phone support. I went through horrible withdrawal and used amino acids and whey protein ISOLATE powder to get rid of the detox symptoms coming off meds. I only got a drug interaction when i increased the dosage of the true hope supplement and that was a signal to reduce the medications. I did it very slowly because coming off psych meds is dangerous. Once i reduced the psych med by an increment, the detox/drug interaction disappeared for awhile, until another reduction was to be made. I eventually got off all psych meds and was on the full loading dosage of the true hope supplement called EMP.
It worked. All my rage and psychosis stopped. Every three months i started to get saner and saner and my energy was increasing. I started going to the gym and as i exercised, more psych meds would come out and i’d have to detox from that and took the whey protein isolate to get relief and vitamin C. I was so determined to get those poisonous psych meds out of my system, i went to the gym every day and lost a lot of weight. I started volunteering at a school and after a year, got a job supply teaching. My mind was working really well and my memory was repaired. I went back to university and finished a teaching degree. My life turned around 360 degrees. Coming off meds wasn’t easy. The drug interactions they talk about are only when you increase the EMP and that is a sign to start reducing the psych med again and then you get relief. If you can’t go through the detox process of psych meds, you will never heal. It is just part of the process. I guess I was so desperate to make it work that i was willing to suffer the detox off psych meds and the drug interactions because i knew i could reduce my psych meds some more. Sometimes I would try to reduce psych meds too fast and the true hope company would tell me to stop and increase the psych med again to slow down the detox process.
Truehope does work, but it is not for people who want an easy ride to recovery and healing. It is painful to get off toxic drugs and it does take a long time because psych meds can kill you if you get off too quickly, especially seroquel or any antipsychotic for that matter.
There are other alternatives out there to true hope if true hope did not agree with your system. I have people being healed of severe depression and schizophrenia on my Facebook group = yellow and purple flowers – Alternative Mental Health.
Elizabeth.
Thanks for the laugh….
Yeah. Me too Michael. After a three wk. respite after a new medication. Hopeful just a lull in it. Although experience teaches me better. Two friends. Especially one who I tried to give a kidney to. Couldn’t due to the bi-polar. Just blew me off. My pain means nothing. His does. My help to him means nothing to him. It is expected. His help to me is a burden. Other guy turns off phone to start talking to others. Never know weather it’s me or my external expectation of respect of others. Suicide especially guns and drugs looking good again. First would like to take care of other people. Too bad that isn’t acceptable.
I mean the Hahnemann hospital staff not my friend. They by the way since then have been involved in organ trans. fraud involving a rabbi and/or other Israeli scam artist or the like. Can recall the specifics, but my friend never got my kidney and suffered terribly. Luckily he ended up with a deceased kidney and pancreas and kidney from a very generous young man and his family. Motorcycle accident.
Are you a Scientologist or just a ( Natasha wont let me say what I feel ). You I believe are either a scam artist or think Bi-polar etc. is some sort of made up disease. Does money rule all that you do in life or just most. You should learn the definition of the word shame and forced to look at dead bodies of people who have died of this disease. Like the Germans did after WW2.
Nobody said that truehope works for everyone who takes it. Even psych meds don’t work for everyone who takes them. That is why you go through med changes. The difference is thatvyou have to pay for truehope while the government pays for your meds. Honestly, being bitter about trying something out of pocket that may work or not for you was a choice. It works for some people and not all. It worked for me forvten years and then I burned out from stress on my job and started eating bread and drinking caffeine again and started to get symptoms of psychosis again. I had to go to a holistic nutritionist and homeopath to save my life a second time using enzymes and remedies. I got off truehope and this protocol worked better than truehope. I started an alternative mental health Facebook page and there are people in there who found some holistic doctors that healed them. I allow truehope people in the room to sell the product but I do not use truehope anymore. I eat a nutrient dense diet avoid gluten and caffeine and sugar. I take homeopathic remedies and enzymes that are used on autistic kids. In my group we allow anyone to join who has found what works for them. Everyone’s body is different so you can’t blame truehope BC it didn’t work for you. I have been two two different homeopaths and a naturopathic school to get treated with no results. I only found one that could actually do it. Some people on Facebook went to orthomolecular doctors and got treated and are doing great. Some people found functional medicine doctors thatvworkedcfor them where truehope failed.
repackaged Centrum, with s proprietary blend… too funny.. good also for warts, bunions, muscle cramps and nasty neighbors..
No it didn’t work and many people who receive mainline treatment pay out of pocket. Greed as well doesn’t prove effectiveness. Of course all body’s are different, but we all know that as well as we know some have blond, brown or other hair colors. This of course has nothing to do with the Con Game. They offer noting and any price higher than zero is to much. The Assumption will never cease to be made that the bipolar are not fools.
You are right that they just sell vitamins, minerals, and amino acids. They are selling a gunshot method of Orthomolecular medicine, which you normally have to get treated by an orthomolecular doctor for.
When you go to an orthomolecular doctor, they check for deficiencies according to your own body’s needs and they prescribe mega dosages like truehope tells you to take, but the difference has to do with the fact that one way (truehope) gives you everything hoping to correct deficiencies, while going to an orthomolecular doctor will cost you more because you have to pay 200-300 an hour for the testing and then you have to pay another 150-200 a month for the supplements they prescribe based no your own body’s needs.
Truehope is a gunshot method of giving you everything. It worked for me because i am not sensitive to vitamins and minerals and amino acids in large dosages. I have met a couple of people who could only take 6 of the pills in their formula and got a bad reaction. I could take the full dosage and more and not react. I was taking 32 pills a day and had to use inositol and choline and L-theanine. WHen i got older it didn’t work anymore for me. So, it worked for me for ten years, but not good enough.
WHat i didn’t realize was that my pancreas wasn’t producing enough enzymes. When i went to a holistic doctor, he put me on pancreatic enzymes and i got off truehope and just rely on food to be completely sane now. I can digest everything and don’t need truehope anymore.
Now, i recommend that people are better off seeing a functional medical doctor in their area who has experience healing mental illness. They are not cheap , but i found one that is a holistic nutritionist and homeopath and he has a degree in medicine from university as well. So, he told me flat out that i don’t need truehope and nobody does. That I just need enzymes to be able to absorb everything from a nutrient rich diet.
I do not want to discourage people from taking truehope if that is what they can afford because it works for a lot of people. It will not work well if you have diabetes and your pancreas like mine is deficient in enzymes. I have another schizophrenic man who got off truehope because it didn’t work for him and he went to the holistic doctor i see and is now completely stable. He just buys the enzymes at 65 a month from online and eats an alkaline diet and buy a green drink called Greens First from online to keep his body alkaline. So, far he lost 45 pounds. He is cleasning off psych meds and very excited to actually be healing. His body type is different because he couldn’t handle the 6 pills of the EMP on truehope, while i could handle 40 pills.
Orthomolecular Dr., please grow up.
Hey, I would like to know how schizoprenia can be healed. A family member of mine has this.
There is no cure for schizophrenia, just controlling it through treatment…although it has been suggested that nutrition and lack there of has a huge hand in mental health issues. Empower Plus has been helping those that suffer with schizophrenia too. That is something you will have to research.
am i the only one here who is even aware of TCM.. Traditional Chinese Mdicine? proscriptions since before 2700 b.c. now wedded to lab studies but ama recognized as a minor added value for post op ananthesisa/ pain. google for “acupuncture , bipolar” or “acu…. , depression. ” as pharma has a monopoly…so ama has too. most of the snakeoil sales nods to their fundsmentals then merely offers up a different sect of the same religion and sacrament . ama luthersns from heidelburg u with their designer strichnines and speaking in tongues baptists with their snake handling “alternatives” like fod
Ortho molecular ” Doctor” Please go to your Chiropractor when you spinal disk decides to relocate itself with no opiates. No opiates remember. When it happens you must only get their treatment and eat vegetables and nothing helps. Tell me how it goes. Shall we do an experiment.
am i the only one here who is even aware of TCM.. Traditional Chinese Mdicine? proscripions sinc before 2700 b.c. now wedded to lab studies but ama r
Yep, the main man is blessed with BS. On a forum of mostly treatment resistant people like me, we had truedope threads in 2001, 2003 and 2006 then no more.
We would eat dirt if it helped but truehope was a massive fail. I think they are crooks. Much like Mercola who tells you to stop meds then has a lot of exercise gear and supplements. He also has a $3M house.
If you don’t get better they will say it’s your fault.
Con man. Still the disproving there is no Santa Claus. Have people look into unprovable info. Create something science can currently prove nor disprove and present it for a cure for the currently un- curable. Great game and great scam. Please go away and go back to pick pocketing. White collar crime ( even at your low level ) is still white collar crime. Go back to stealing change out of the couches out of your relatives this Christmas. If you feel the need to pretend you are a scientist. Buy a chemistry set and set up some experiments.
AMEN already. Either get on 100% with the Truehope Empowerplus protocol and work with them ( ITS THEIR PROTOCOL after all ) and allow them to work their magic and do what they do best and wait to see how it goes or pack it in and get off the rant and move on to your next smear campaign.
The way I understand it after actually taking the time to ask questions and LISTEN to what they had to say, was they need to know what mood altering meds your currently taking so they can customize a proper and efficacious transition protocol for you as each medication has different addictive tendencies and withdrawal mitigation factors. If your not on meds, just take the damn supplements and give it the time it needs to do its job. I also see that they do have a couple of other products they offer to mitigate withdrawl symptoms and the Candida issue. I asked about that and they pointed me to a lot of research from around the globe indicating that those who suffer with a mood disorder, be that depression, bipolar etc etc, in the higher percentages also had Candida or yeast over growth throughout the intestinal track which prohibits the uptake of nutrition from food and supplementation. They indicated that taking Empowerplus which is nutrient rich, feeds Candida and yeast growth. However if you wipe the Candida out first, the effects of the Empowerplus are far greater as you can actually absorb and utilize the nutrients. It made sense to me , but would have been nice if you had further dug into the bigger picture with truehope and their program. I would suggest you call and get clarification on a few talking points and maybe give yourself a better chance of actually seeing good things happen on the product as with my wife.
James baron Murphy
I dug into the picture. I am very well versed in vitamins. Vitamins are not protocols. They are vitamins…. You want real vitamins made out of dense real food sources instead of the true hope chemical based vitamins , I would suggest you look into megafood and garden of life all food based vitamins. they have proprietary bends,too. Imagine that.
Too funny… You call taking a vitamin not much better Than centrum a protocol?.. Proprietary .. Oh my… Every multi has a “proprietary” blend. Thats what makes them differentiate themselves from the other vitamins.
Did you read their ingredients page. All those micro nutrients are vitamins and minerals. Thats it…. You talk about candida…. what they said is not true at all and if you are concerned about it all you have to do is take a probiotic or eat fermented food as in raw sauerkraut or raw pickles Daily, available at any grocery store. Much cheaper and tastes yummy. No hope, I mean true hope is laughable but there is nothing to laugh at because they prey on people like me who are looking for anything to help our pain. And if you want the most nutrient rich “protocol”, just eat Sprouts one of the most nutrient dense foods on the planet. – Then follow up with Kale….
http://www.sunwarrior.com/news/15-nutrient-dense-foods-to-eat-more-often/#sthash.1B6xA1ce.dpuf
Nice to hear from you Michael. Hope all O.K. As to sprouts. Have heard a bit about sprouts having some bad stuff? Bacteria, etc.? Know anything about that? Just on edge of memory don’t really know much about it. Clarify if you know better. As to vitamins a vitamin is a vitamin. Delivery systems, absorption rate, adding other chemicals, etc. will have an effect buy I think it is a total waste of time even reading what these people have to say. It’s no different than a legitimate scientist wasting his time looking in to debate a scam creationist about evolution. Noting to debate. Just going down the rabbit whole. Not a real investigative rabbit whole, but a useless one. Guess one or two real scientists just making some responses to this stuff and moving on to explain to the uninformed ( Natasha won’t let me say idiot ) would be O.K. Why should these highly talented men continue to waste their time.
Will.
http://hippocratesinst.org/nutrition/sprouts-the-living-super-food
http://www.medindia.net/patients/lifestyleandwellness/sprouts-the-super-food.htm
What I meant Michael was I remember reading maybe a couple years ago. Think it may have been in Germany about sprout making many people sick. Think maybe because of fertilizer or something. I really cant remember, makes it easy for sprouts to be damaging. Does seem they may have great benefits other than this one thing. Must look into it more. Ex-girlfriend vegetarian for years and swears by spouts. She has never got sick from them, but might be e-coli or something.
Don’t get on with true hope. It should be labeled true scam. These are people who steal from those without education and are desperate. No reason to hear these people out more than any con man at your door. Politely tell them you have better things to do and close the door and tell them not to come back and get a real job or do something else. These people are beggars but with an excuse who make far more money then. Trust me from someone who wants nothing from you. Ignore these people and forget about them. They are just thieves working the legal edges you hurt you and you family if you have one.
Will Nist……. there was an incident with packaged sprouts however most people make their own sprouts at home,, Very simple to do.
http://www.simplebites.net/how-to-grow-sprouts-at-home/
It’s hard for there ” protocol” to be addictive because rarely are inert vitamins and crap addictive. To be addictive it normally must actually do something. Crawl back in the hole.
Hi Natasha, I understand that you may be looking at the bottom of your own proverbial well too often, and you need to try something else–ok then do it. Try the True hope. I’m sure you have loved ones aound that will take charge (God forbid) if the whole thing is a bust. Why all the ado?
It’s your life, your illness, your decision, your money, the end of y.o.u.r own personal rope. You’ll know soon enough if you need to go back to your old ‘poisons’ or that -and if, you are functioning and free of bipolar.
How kind others who’ve written are, to warn of their own experiences, or investigations on this concept of this touted treatment.
I believe that there is a cure –somewhere. Am I willing to try this one? no.
It would be splashed all over the front pages of our worlds, if this was the cure. And that’s when I will.
I have seen more cures for baldness than I want to count, thru the years, they are ubiquitous and all phony so far. Unless you can afford hair plugs, you’re still bald.
Unti I see ‘hair’ on this new concept, I will sit and wait in my daily and manic mood mix, and let my mind run wild about a possible cure in True Hope.
I sincerely hope that if you are currently trying it -or are going to, that you are alright. Many times what works for one, does nada for the other.
There are a lot of people here who care about you. We are all in the same club here, with it’s huge dues.
I’m pulling for you. I want you to feel better. I want to feel better.
Good luck Natasha. God bless.
Hopefully Natasha is only doing this as an experiment. I think she is. I think she knows it is just B.S.
Natasha, are you doing this as graduate work. You seem very intelligent. Where are your added comments on this absurd stuff. I hope it is coming.
Hi Will,
I’m not doing this as graduate work but it is an experiment. Of course, all treatments are. Everyone has to experiment to see what works for them.
As for my comments, I have made them in previous pieces and I will make them again the future but, honestly, I have to be careful so I’m not sued. (They have a history of doing this, I’ve been told.)
– Natasha Tracy
Yes, I understand Natasha. The greed of some individuals surpasses all. Luckily we each have a place and as I have no money I do not fear legal action. The research is very important and I believe you should continue to do it. Progress is made not just in new discoveries but in continuing to point out the falseness of past beliefs and those who would exploit those and other ambiguities for financial and other gain. Keep up the good work and hope you are now well. Remember some people still believe the earth is flat.
Natasha, I can’t seem to get to you or want to in another way. This is the pt. I just received an ad. from someone who reports to work for you or your company. I know you are a native English speaker. This person was not. They said they were representing you and sent me an ambiguous and non-specific proposal in broken English to employ them in improving my website. My site is hidden on the dark web. Don’t think they know of it. Question is do you know anything about this and are you employing foreign programmers, web-masters etc. in your company. Any response from you would be appreciated. I considered this a scam and treated it as such. Thank you, Will Nist. P.S. Haven’t it seems had responses from your blog since.
Hi Will,
You’re absolutely right, that is an absolute scam. I have never hired anyone to represent me in any way and have no knowledge of anyone doing as such. I’m really quite appalled. Thank goodness you didn’t buy it.
I’ll post something about this on Facebook and Twitter and hope that no one else falls for it either.
Thanks so much for letting me know.
– Natasha Tracy
Sorry Natasha, did I send you what I received. I was going to resend , but it appears I may have deleted it. Will send if I find it in my folders. I’m guessing this is related to what previously talked about. Greed will stop no one. Sincerely, will mist.
Well said Stevie. Hope and experiment to prove the fraud. I’m sure the company has built in scam to save them after it does no good. Believe she knows it’s a huge scam.
Just a follow up. Let us follow this up and expose the scam nationally and shut these people down if we can. Or should we regarding freedom?
To answer James Baron Murphy’s question as to why a companies and doctors recommend the product…….$$$$$$. It is that simple!
Worth reading this summary of the True Hope situation: http://www.naturalnews.com/023071_supplement_disorder_health.html The conclusion of the article is, “Examined comprehensively, this early research seems to indicate an approximate 80% success rate using EMPowerplus to treat psychiatric conditions (specifically bipolar). This by no means translates to a cure or consensus in the scientific community over the effectiveness of the product, but it certainly suggests that further research is warranted – a conclusion reached by every researcher who has studied the supplement to date.”f its
Note, definitive proof of it effiacy has NOT been established and further research is required before a definite conclusion is determined. So,, they are selling the stuff without irrefutable evidence that it works. *That* has to be wrong! The pharma’ companies couldn’t get away with doing that, so why should True Hope?
Not worth reading. Use your time productively and read something that tries to solve the problem and not try to exploit people . Don’t waste your time anymore than you would with the creation “science” people. Move on to real people with real ideas.
It seems that my comments are not getting through. Is it because I’m having a positive opinion about empowerplus?
Hi Nadya,
This is the only comment I have seen of yours. I’m sorry if the others haven’t gotten through but it has nothing to do with your views, they just aren’t in the system.
– Natasha Tracy
I came across your blog on the topic of Truehope Supplements and thought I would do a little checking of my own simply because I had heard numerous positive things (as opposed to negative ) from a friends wife about it with her bipolar condition and how it has helped her in her position as a lawyer working for the federal government. To my surprise, as you failed to mention the following key points, it would turn out, Empowerplus has been researched independently at 15 universities by 41 scientists around the globe ranging from Harvard, Ohio State, etc etc. It also has more medical journal publications ( 22+ at time of posting this) on it than any other micronutrient formula on the planet all of which were performed completely independent of the company as opposed to pharmaceutical studies and all the publications had significantly positive things to say about the effect of it on various psych conditions. According to the top psychiatrist at Harvards Maclean hospital, Dr Charles Popper, he found it to be more than 3 x more effective than Lithium which is the #1 prescription med in the world on psych disorders. Why would someone of this magnanimous stature who was responsible for bringing many mainstream drugs to north America and whos cliental roster is literally star studded with Government leaders , financial elite and movie stars make such a profound statement in his publications found in the most reputable psych journal in the world… the journal of Clinical Psychiatry? It sounds to me that the treatment is astounding to say the very least but you seem to have a problem with paranoia and or the way you feel things should have been on the phone with the company. It would seem that your own personal reservations are getting in the way of un unbiased review which I find as quite the turn off from your blog and personal level of professional mannerisms. Not good.
Hello James,
If I have a skewed perspective then so, certainly, do you.
You might be more interested in the first article I published on the topic, this is the third: https://natashatracy.com/treatment-issues/treatment-resistance/truehope-bipolar-treatment-empowerplus/
As for all the medical journals:
1. These are _not_ double-blind placebo controlled studies (as I say in my first article) there are _none_ of those for bipolar disorder in adults. The only one that _was_ being run was terminated by the researcher (which is mentioned in this article).
2. The “studies” mentioned are generally _case_studies_ ie, reports of one, or a few. That is not evidence, that is an anecdote.
3. You provide no sources for any of your more wild claims so I can’t really take them seriously.
– Natasha Tracy
You definitely work for true hope. If you dont please take a bottle of regular off the shelf $10 multi vitamisn and match up the ingredients with this horse shit. Micronutrients!!!! = vitamins and minerals. You state of all these trials and clinical reviews. please provide us with the links. You must have read them if you told us about them. I await the links to the trial and clinical reviews that actually have the names of the reviewer and hospital, etc.
I cannot believe we are discussing what basically is a dime storm bottle of vitamins with a little added magical potion. I wish I could laugh but I am so saddened by this disease and how people will make money over those of us who are searching for relief. Sometimes I am in such bad pain that if somebody told me that motor oil with a blend of herbs does the trick I would take it. This is how cruel and savage this disease is for many of us and yet I am smart enough to know that I rather take my money and learn yoga, pay got massages, take meditation courses , CBT and anything else that would make my day less stressful knowing full well that I will never be healed.
Please read both columns…. and tell me what you read, especially the left hand column which keeps the company from being shut down. http://www.truehope.com/doctors/ingredients.aspx… The right hand column contains all those special micronutrients. wow! Defined by Mirriam Webster Dictionary a micro nutrient is an organic compound (as a vitamin) essential in minute amounts to the growth and health of an animal.
It saddens me… Maybe you should read this blog post again.. In the end I know what Natasha will find out because she is already suspecting it.
Michael, I can’t type here what I would do to these people if there were not laws against it and there were true justice. I think we both know what is deserved. Educated people understand it’s those who suffer who may not be so aware who are true victims of these scum. They assume all with bp and other mi are morons.
WILL… There is a reason why they are in a small never heard of Podunk town in nowheresville Canada. There is a reason why they were involved in a murder trial.. And yes there is a reason why people who suffer so much will believe just about anything to get some relief. No need for anger Will. I am angry too, but I have asked Natasha with all my heart to get off this subject with her next blog post. I believe she sees where this is going and we are here to support her too. , I hope you are doing a bit better since your last post. If I were able to drive I would come up and visit you since we are maybe 2 hours apart. Be well, my friend.
Thanks for the reply Michael but my whole life I have been told that anger is inappropriate, even when It appears violent action was acceptable. I think anger can be quite appropriate verbally under some circumstances. I have never been physically violent to a single person. On the contrary have prevented it many times due to my being such a large man and other means of influence. I disagree with her changing the subject as I believe these thing should be discussed. I hope the best only for all with this terrible disease and only the worst for those who try to falsely profit from it. Been doing a little better since past talked to you. Thank you for asking. Just had another birthday alone and has been rough. Always think of my x at that time and why she left. Shame is I know. You know. Something I can’t control and can’t fix. Something I’ll never have again.
This is a serious life threatening illness. You are either a moron or an out of control capitalist. I only hope you or the one you love the most gets this or another terrible disease and none of your ill gotten cash does anything for you or this loved one. Please post again when this happens. you will of course be mailing from your oncologist, psychiatrist or cardiologists office. Kevin T. and those like him will do you now good. Neither will pleas to any god you may have believed in the past.
Hi Will,
I can understand that feelings might be strong on this subject but please refrain from attacking others: https://natashatracy.com/bipolar-burble-blog-commenting-rule/
– Natasha Tracy
There are many like Will who are suffering terribly and come to this blog for a myriad of reasons. I found this blog to be the best I have seen on the subject of Bipolar. Yes, you do need rules and regulations but let me add that this truehope post of your has stirred many, me being one of them. I sincerely wish that you write about something else on your next piece and when the time comes for you to discuss your findings, you will and in depth. Until then I personally am bothered by these posts. Truehope as I stated on its link.
https://www.mytruehope.net/store/products/truehope-empowerplus.asp?__utma=1.838739951.1386615225.1387329738.1387334377.6&__utmb=1.1.10.1387334377&__utmc=1&__utmx=-&__utmz=1.1387329738.5.3.utmcsr=google|utmccn=(organic)|utmcmd=organic|utmctr=(not%20provided)&__utmv=-&__utmk=29615295
states that its product replaces psychiatric drugs. I sincerely hope that because of these 3 posts people who have never heard of truehope will order, and get off their psychiatric meds and need I say more? I ask of you to with all my heart to please write about another subject in your next blog .
Hi Michael,
I’m sorry you’re so bothered by the posts. I wish I could tell you there were no more to come, but there are. You see, I want to document the whole process for people so that if someone actually wants to look into this stuff it will all be there for them. So much of this is only known when you really look into the company and the product and in the material they send you only _after_ you buy.
My next post is actually about the holidays (a break from all this). Hopefully that will cleanse your palette.
Like I said, I’m sorry you’re so bothered but I do think there are valid reasons to document this process.
– Natasha Tracy
i MADE A MISTAKE ON MY POST TO YOU… LAST PARAGRAPH…..
I sincerely hope that because of these 3 posts people who have never heard of truehope will order, and get off their psychiatric meds and need I say more? I ask of you to with all my heart to please write about another subject in your next blog .
I MEANT TO WRITE ‘WILL.. NOT.. ORDER’.
Natasha, I personally don’t believe in censorship in any way. At all, but I do respect you trying to control your site. All I ask is a little objective guidance. I don’t believe I have stepped on anyone in anyway. There is a limit though on total hogwash ( dated term I know ). I hope it is more important to pt. out total quackery that it is to adhere to socially acceptable norms of discussion. I understand you may be working on a graduate degree or the like and maybe limiting content in some way, but it is important to me to let those who may not be aware of the criminals out their trying to pray on those they believe to be weak. I am weak as a man in many ways, but as well strong in others. I don’t like thugs who try to abuse others who can’t defend themselves, weather physically or mentally. Please tell me where you think I have erred and maybe we can discuss it. Thanks, will niat.
Hi Will,
You called one of the other commenters a “moron” and that was, specifically, what I was responding to.
– Natasha Tracy
Shame. Making up statistics to make money. Guessing if you get colon cancer, a trip to the local health food store wont be your first. Please think of me when the terminal illness comes. Please remember me and how you made your money when you try to not think of the pain. This is when you discover you are human and not immune to pain.
Gobbly gook or not, at least people who have been diagnosed with a mental illness are willing to TRY something rather than nothing at all, right?
Some folks are completely anti-pharmaceutical and only do “holistic” and/or “natural” and would swear by the vitamins, supplements, etc.. Even some psychiatrists will pacify and suggest a supplement or 2 to mix in and/or take (I had one that because I could not handle ADs suggested Fish Oil, as my AD replacement, and even calculated how much for me to take given my weight and level of depression).
Not everything labeled “alternative” is entirely bad. Back in “the day”, Native American remedies and solutions were dismissed entirely… now, some of the old ways are now new ways.
That said: getting a “support staff” person who had no qualification at all and works for a call center is not as abnormal as you may think.
I worked in a international call center company handling prescription precertification and authorization for a very large major US Health Plan for their Medicare part D recipients. Granted, I do have a Pharmacy Tech education somewhere in my brain from years ago BUT there were some, sitting there right next to me that had not an ounce of pharmacy knowledge but had call center knowledge.
The “health insurer” sent a trainer to train us for 6 weeks and ALL of us passed. We were then placed on calls and paid BY THE CALL. We had elderly folks calling about “us” changing out their prescriptions, etc.. and if there were interactions known, we were not to authorize the insurance payment.
Seriously… having a non-qualified support person on a phone is not an abnormal business practice and yes, more than likely they were gathering info to build up a marketing file on you. You’d then be, most likely, sent pamphlets and brochures on products that are related or not… to your condition and/or meds.
Heck, I had access to so many prescriptions taken and/or tried by so many health insurance subscribers and I had to inquire, when they called, as to other drugs they had taken & their diagnosis(es) that weren’t necessarily paid and/or covered by that health insurer (you know, in case they came from another health insurer, etc..)
Still… to be so against a possibility of something outside the “protocol” of pharmaceutical chemical meds… which you’ve been known… is not helping many who either have been on everything – like yourself OR have very strong beliefs against the pharmaceuticals and want something supposedly “healthy” or “natural” (whether it or they are, or not).
Yes, you are trying this and that’s great… but you’ve not gone into this with an open mind. Your mind was narrowed, if not closed, to start. Much like those who are “anti-meds”, with their narrow to even completely closed minds… you’ve gone into something you felt no promise for…
Not sure I agree with “willing to TRY something rather than nothing at all”, though maybe with the caveat that “as long as it doesn’t cause harm”. Not sure that stopping other meds on the advice of a supplement sales person would count!
And as far as going in with an open mind, I agree that is important, but not nearly as important as going in with a very well-informed mind. And while I may be biased, I think critically evaluating and taking into account clinical evidence before any treatment decision is extremely important.
Try something. Please sent me 1k per month and I suggest waving your hands in the air and praying to Thor. Scum stealing money whores. Forget that BP people are easy targets. They may come for you and you phony scams. An open mind is not an empty mind. I’m thinking of looking into your business and you personally. Believe me you do not want that.
My wife had a couple of patients pushing to go on it in lieu of other things, and when I did the research on it for her came to pretty much the same conclusions you did as to the poor/disgraced pseudo-evidence, up-sell business model, clear attempts to manipulate customers, etc. As it preys on the vulnerable, and does so in a dangerous way (advocating stopping other treatments) I have great disdain for the company.
Having said that, your decision to try it to me makes perfect sense. Precisely because you are going in with eyes wide open and extremely educated. For most people, there’s nothing that bad in it that would cause any harm to try it, assuming they’re not giving up other things. And the kicker is that it’s so easy to try. If it helps, great! If not, no big loss in time, money or level of functioning.
Particularly when you’re “stuck”, and presented with easy very low-risk options, even with poor evidence, it’s not a bad thing to just move forward and do something, even with a low chance of success. Sitting in one place and doing nothing at all is a recipe for major frustration for most people.
For all those reasons, I think while it’s a good fit in your current situation, I think few others will be in a comparable situation, namely being extremely educated on the topic so as not to fall into the scam traps, and having exhausted most evidence-based treatments.
A couple of other suggestions, since you’re in a place where I suspect you’re open to low risk quick experiments…
First, if you haven’t had a thorough metabolic workup lately, get it done again (ferritin>50, b12>240, vit d, tsh, and checks for kidneys, liver, inflammation markers, and anything else that might present an alternate explanation for any somatic symptoms you’re experiencing).
Second, even if you’ve had bad experiences with certain meds before, don’t necessarily rule them out. It’s not unusual for people to handle some meds better when started extremely slowly (i.e. compounding pharmacy for less than smallest normal dose). Not as quick to try this, but if you’ve had ones you started and couldn’t tolerate right off the bat and stopped, it’s something to consider.
Third, if side effects have been an issue with some meds, there may be other agents that can manage them (e.g. Cogentin for akathisia, Inderal for nightmares). Without themselves creating other side effects…
Finally (and again, definitely not as quick) with such a huge combination of drugs and dosages (especially if you factor in some of the old school antidepressants into the mix, and also some other off-label things) there’s pretty much an endless combination. Taking a break from trying to figure it out isn’t a bad thing, but at least you know there’s always more things to consider down the road.
Thanks as always for the approach you take in your writing.
Mark,,,,, Unbelievable…..Must be just a coincidence that you live in a straight line North of truehope Headquarters. I find it very odd since this is in the middle of nowhere. True Hope is In Alberta and you live in Alberta…. Natasha, you sure are stirring up the waters.
To clarify, very definitely not a supporter of TrueHope, as the first paragraph of my response should indicate. I think it’s a scam.
I would stick to science before taking HERBS now.
The suicide rate is 5 times higher with BIPOLAR DEPRESSION.I don’t ever want to experiment with my life again or bounce off the bottom for months feeling nothing and thinking of ways to die.Then the Lithium kicked in with the Clonazapam I had no more anxiety and the Seriqil was heaven.
I go for regular blood test to check my body for levels and SAFETY…..SCIENCE PEOPLE….not religion,spirituality or herbs.
SCIENCE is keeping me stable .
ALERT !! ….I was in a 3 month Mania and I was not yet diagnosed and treated for Bipolar in the summer of 2011.ANYWAY,praise the lord I found this wonderful company that has video’s on You Tube called ” TRUE HOPE VITAMINS ” .These people had worked 20 years with a chemist testing the mixture on pigs that were anxious and aggressive.
Being really sick and NOT WANTING to go on Lithium,Clonazapam and Seriquil I spent $1,200.00 on TRUE HOPE and it was going to control my mania.THat was great and in a few months I was seeing things disappear and appear and I was hearing voices.I wasn’t sleeping and I was sick at the sight of food and lost 20 pounds.I now call that the ” MANIA WEIGHT LOSS DIET ” ….LOL
The highly trained staff told me to keep going until I went into a Bipolar Rage after a mail man walked up on the KIng Shepherd I volunteered to walk over the last 6 years.The dog went to protect me and the mailman was off route and should NOT have been in that yard.Police were soon involved with one OPP ready to draw his gun on me and end me.I tried to explain that I was MANIC and 26 years in Government work but the cops didn’t care and are untrained for Neurological Disorders….( BIPOLAR )
In the end I had my friend ” BUSTER ” my fur baby taken from me by the owners because I was BIPOLAR and MANIC.I became suicidal and walked out in front of a car.So thank You TRUE HOPE for taking my money and giving me professional advice with a grade 12 education to back it up.Thanks for taking my $1,200.00 for some snake oil that did nothing to help me.
I am now stable on meds but I dream at night about my friend BUSTER…….As ” RED ” said in the old movie Shawshank Redemption ” I guess I just miss my friend ” THANK YOU TRUE HELL VITAMINS
And by the way new studies are showing the danger of too many vitamins or supliments in the body.
The lord didn’t help you and the vitamins didn’t cause hallucinations. There may be a god but you and no one else will ever know and vitamins never will cause hallucination unless you take extreme amounts like with all other chemicals. Search for real truth and not scam b.s. like religion and health nuts. A good place to start is to stop getting info from the internet that is backed up no where. Usually this costs money or books you can’t afford.
I agree with you 100%.I’m an Athiest now that believes in Science and double blind studies.The hallucinations were caused by coffee ( stimulant Psychosis ) but the vitamins did not stabalize my mood even though they kept me taking more per day.15 for MANIA according to the True Hope people.
I don’t understand this assumption though…..?…… Wil Nist” Usually this costs money or books you can’t afford ”
I have $130,000 in my savings unless their is something you know differently ?
Well Ivan this is my take on this. Information is expensive these days as is everything else. Most information on the internet that is easily accessed by goggle or other search engines through there algorithms is usually what is popular. Access to real scientific studies is usually reserved for those who can pay for that access or be sued for illegally downloading that information as one famous case supports. In general this information is tough to access as a who by those with extremely limited income. I live on less than $800.00 per mo. total in the U.S. Medical texts are well beyond my means as well as the money to access these academic articles and the technical means I may to interpret the applicable statistical analysis of these articles. I read a good book recently called “Wrong” written by David H. Freedman. A main researcher he talks about in the book is John Ioannidis. I got this book by the way for a dollar in a local dollar store. It will reinforce many if not all of your previous beliefs on how the FDA drug test etc. are not only conducted but how and why they are even done to begin with. As always in our modern money based society follow the money. In short and the answer to your question is. I don’t have the money or the adequate hacking skills to get the information I need that may save my life.
Will, you’re right that quality information is expensive, both financially and in terms of obtaining the knowledge to interpret it.
Having said that, Google Scholar is a pretty reasonable source of information. By the nature of its sources, it will exclude many of the promotional web sites that are out there, though not all of its sources are perfectly credible. Over time you learn to separate out the reputable mainstream journals from some of the flaky sources.
It also tells you the ‘reach’ of the article, i.e. how many other journals etc. have referenced that article, which is again a bit of a heuristic to help you figure out if a position is fringe or mainstream.
Increasingly, the full text of much medical research is available for free. Google Scholar will point to that when available.
Finally, the nature of the article itself can shed some clues. Studies provide more evidence than case reports. In general, larger, multi-site studies are better than smaller, isolated ones, though methodologies are tricky to evaluate. Long-term prospective studies are better than short-term retrospective ones. And often the best thing to find is the well-written review article, which tries to aggregate a large number of individual studies and come up with some interpretation of what it all means.
Yes, all of these are open to manipulation and bias, but it’s a very good starting point.
And while I’ll admit to taking a couple of stats courses, as well as doing a small amount of statistical analysis during my computer science degrees, that was also 20 years ago, and now my eyes glaze over as much as anyone else’s when it comes to that side of things…
Responding to Mark Roseman who commented to me on 12/20/13 on 12/20/13. First Natasha you either have no control over your site or you wish it that way. I’m getting suspicious after all the private posts I’ve sent you that have not been related or the inconsistency of what you have privately sent to me. I WILL be looking into this as I’m good at sniffing out B.S. I hope I am wrong. If not please excuse me. But like I’ve said before something here is not kosher at all. Not kosher at all. This is in
response to Mark Roseman who responded to me in a response that was made to Ivan as if the response was made to him. First in pursuing my degree in Mechanical Engineering I took classes in both inductive and deductive statistics. I received both an A and an A plus respectively in these courses. I have as well after that due to lack of funds to finish my degree formally studied more of this field and other areas of formal mathematics although this was a while ago. I in short can understand and interpret much statistical analysis of these studies, although much of it I forget and/or never learned to begin with. Google scholar isn’t too much different than other types of google or other search engines. It is google money. Try doing some research about google patent infringements lawsuits etc. against them and their opponents and you will see it clearly. As I said ALWAYS follow the money as when other than those with true integrity or those not glued to the current system (rare) it will lead you almost always to where you wish to go. I of course know logically that he larger the sample and the larger the space of the time the study was done the more accurate in general the results are. In short all information is open to interpretation and this info. not unlike info. on building hydrogen bombs is expensive and sold to the highest bidder. What your I suspect are up to. Almost sure of. Is using what knowledge you do have in a nefarious and evil way. In the same way Von Braun did with science of rockets. Not that you are up to anything of that level in your scam. I hope mostly for the sake of others but also for the sake of yourself you do not perpetuate this scam. Money I tell you will not quench your thirst. It will chock you.
Hi Will, didn’t mean to offend. I generally agree with your points about Google (and others’) bias. I was just offering what I found personally useful. No agenda.
Hi Will,
I’m still not sure what you mean as I haven’t sent you any private messages, only relied to comments.
– Natasha Tracy
I’m watching. Don’t forget it. Scamming the weak with my disease will not be tolerated. If I find you are abusing and using my people I will use all LEGAL!!! means to right the wrong. Period. Yes, these are my people and I will protect them.
Sounds a lot like a psychmeds actually. Interactions? Check. Take-yo-meds attitude? Check. Pill for side-effects? CHeck. Have support take-yo-meds support? Check.
Rubs on me wrong way and seems to be alternative in name only. Otherwise same as mainstream treatment. Unrealistic expectation, simplistic explanation of how it works, “this is the only way there is” BS, pill-for-every-ill…
There are alternatives that are much better. THey are just not as touted, they don’t promise so much…. but they may work much better.
Venus…. what dont you understand.. Its a cheap multi vitamin.Did you read what the ingredients are?. If it had one ingredient in it that was pharmacological it would be banned in the USA so quickly. There are real meds manufactured in Canada that aren’t allowed to be brought in to the USA.
You state there are Alternatives that are much better for bipolar. You sound like them. Since us said alternatives, please name me 2 that are much better?
Yeah, it’s a big oversold hype.
what alternatives are better? I myself have big coctail of herbals, most of them I planted or picked myself. I use em intuitevly.
There’s plenty of supplements are help. Omega3. lecitin, gingo.
I like bach essences. Have more around or a practitionaire and mix and match according to your momentary needs (again it’s something that will not harm you if it doesn’t help).
Mood foods.
Yoga. Yes, the much sneered and spat at yoga. Mindfulness, learning to meditate. Guided visualization.
for me spirituality helps. I survived many hopeless nights thanks to it.
Point is… find what works and what you believe in. Going into a treatment with such suspicion or even straight on hatered… chances are it will NOT work.
This vitamins has changed peoples life for the better and this web site is a joke all these adds popping up obviously the writer has a interest in people not getting better or she won’t have anyone to counsel of course health Canada whats everyone on big pharma pills its the government the want us all drugged up legal weed etc…. this site is such a joke get serious for shame your pink hair i bet you couldn’t run up a flight of stairs if your life depends on it let alone no anything about health do any of the people she counsels recover I highly doubt it she would want them too even if she could help them witch she can’t do the world a favor and take a flying leap of something
You know I left you a very long post as to my findings which in my opinion is no better than a cheap multi from CVS with an added “(proprietary blend)
The question becomes… Are you still going to take that crap?